The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

[ScoobyDoo]

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I think it’s funny that Kasich is a Republican, a Christian, and is against abortion vetoed that kind of crap.

People on here flame me every time I say this, but I’ve liked Kasich now for a number of years. He sees the insanity the GOP has become. He might be posturing for a run for president still, but I don’t care.

Edit: after reading the article, I guess I’ve been burned again. He apparently signed a law banning the procedure most commonly used for second trimester abortions.

I like him too but he's still just a Republican. They're always on the wrong side of the issues and they don't have logical human approaches to the abortion issue. There are millions of things that can be done in the abortion policy area that would be more helpful.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

When all is said and done
Kasich has beliefs, Trump has none

[ScoobyDoo]

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Good reporting here.

My colleagues on the NYT editorial board and I have a new series out on fetal personhood — how that notion has been propagated by the anti-abortion movement, lawmakers, and prosecutors, and how it's resulted in women losing rights in a number of ways. https://t.co/RHIpfjnlBq

— Lauren Kelley (@lauren_kelley) December 28, 2018

[MissThundercat]

Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

Good reporting here.

My colleagues on the NYT editorial board and I have a new series out on fetal personhood — how that notion has been propagated by the anti-abortion movement, lawmakers, and prosecutors, and how it's resulted in women losing rights in a number of ways. https://t.co/RHIpfjnlBq

— Lauren Kelley (@lauren_kelley) December 28, 2018

Nice to know that fetuses will be given the right to vote soon.

[SJHovey]

Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

Nice to know that fetuses will be given the right to vote soon.

What sucks is that a lot of these laws get passed with an underlying ulterior motive of limiting abortion, or at a bare minimum, with the support of anti-abortion organizations, but are really the direct result of completely gutless legislators refusing to do anything but govern by plebiscite.

Someone shoots a woman who is five months pregnant and she loses the baby. The first reaction is the shooter should be charged with murder, without for even one farking moment sitting down and thinking about the unintended consequences of this type of law.

[burd]

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What sucks is that a lot of these laws get passed with an underlying ulterior motive of limiting abortion, or at a bare minimum, with the support of anti-abortion organizations, but are really the direct result of completely gutless legislators refusing to do anything but govern by plebiscite.

Someone shoots a woman who is five months pregnant and she loses the baby. The first reaction is the shooter should be charged with murder, without for even one farking moment sitting down and thinking about the unintended consequences of this type of law.

I'm a little cloudy on details, but about 26 years ago, a North Dakota woman was charged with attempted murder because she was huffing something like spray paint while pregnant. After being charged, she had a legal abortion. I think the case was pending when I was in state, but the D.A. had not dropped charges the last I recall. Not sure if it ever reached the appellate level either, but it was very interesting.

[Kepler]

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When all is said and done
Kasich has beliefs, Trump has none

It must be nice, it must be nice
To have FadeToBlack on your side

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Well, to be fair, Bloatus does have one belief - saying and doing whatever is best for Donald J. Trump at any given moment in time. Which is exactly what Hamilton thought Burr was doing, so the shoe still fits.

[MissThundercat]

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Well, the mass shooting thread has gravitated to abortion...

[joecct]

Well, the mass shooting thread has gravitated to abortion...

All it was was a trade - increased gun control v restrictions on abortion and it took off from there.

It went from 0 to 100 pretty quick.

[MissThundercat]

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All it was was a trade - increased gun control v restrictions on abortion and it took off from there.

It went from 0 to 100 pretty quick.

So that means you started it. Good job.

[mookie1995]

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Well, to be fair, Bloatus does have one belief - saying and doing whatever is best for Donald J. Trump at any given moment in time. Which is exactly what Hamilton thought Burr was doing, so the shoe still fits.

if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice

[MissThundercat]

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Well, it's definitely not abortion that's causing a declining fertility rate.

Though... it sounds like the article blames women for *gasp* having careers and starting families later in life!

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Well, it's definitely not abortion that's causing a declining fertility rate.

Though... it sounds like the article blames women for *gasp* having careers and starting families later in life!

Or how about :
No maternity leave
High child care costs
Ridiculous health care costs
Out of control education cost
Stagnant wages

How anyone has kids now I have no clue

[MissThundercat]

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Or how about :
No maternity leave
High child care costs
Ridiculous health care costs
Out of control education cost
Stagnant wages

How anyone has kids now I have no clue

But according to conservatives, cis women are supposed to be baby making machines. Screw what you're up against, get to the baby making!