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  • #136
    Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    Explain it to me. Explain how we're murdering our future generations at a rate that the killing machines of state sponsored warfare cannot approach. Explain how we look at the number of war dead in horror, decry the wanton killing of innocent children, yet celebrate with glee the willful termination of a pregnancy. Yes, explain it to me.

    I'm interested on reading on how almost 700K dead future humans in a year is not a tragedy but a statistic.
    I would also add that starting with this hyperbolic type language basically shuts down a discussion before starting. It makes mother nature are real monster if you equate a blastocyst and an embryo to an "innocent child."
    In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher'.

    Originally posted by burd
    I look at some people and I just know they do it doggy style. No way they're getting close to my kids.

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    • #137
      Originally posted by joecct View Post
      Meanwhile, can/will anyone defend/counter argue the numbers that I posted?

      We removed in one year almost 700K future members of our society because they were inconvenient, unwanted or defective.

      Please explain on how this is acceptable behaviour?
      Because in a country of 300,000,000, lots of crazy stuff happens, and neither you nor the Catholic Church gets to decide what everyone else should be forced to do.

      And there's the whole problem of where you stop your argument. For every abortion, there are probably hundreds of pregnancies prevented by birth control. Are those millions of missing kids as well?

      How about natural miscarriages? Do those need to be tracked, and each one given a funeral? (Mike Pence to the red courtesy phone).

      The church's position is abstinence only. That seems to be preventing a decent amount of future members of society, too. So why are you only concerned about abortions?

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      • #138
        Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

        Originally posted by joecct View Post
        Explain it to me. Explain how we're murdering our future generations at a rate that the killing machines of state sponsored warfare cannot approach. Explain how we look at the number of war dead in horror, decry the wanton killing of innocent children, yet celebrate with glee the willful termination of a pregnancy. Yes, explain it to me.

        I'm interested on reading on how almost 700K dead future humans in a year is not a tragedy but a statistic.
        Explain to me how the GOP doesn't give a flying eff about any one of them once they leave the womb and we can start the conversation.

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        • #139
          Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

          Originally posted by WisconsinWildcard View Post
          It makes mother nature are real monster if you equate a blastocyst and an embryo to an "innocent child."
          God is the universe's most prolific abortionist.

          Also, "Blastocyst" is a good name for a band.

          Edit: Yup.

          (As an influence they list Aborted.)
          Last edited by Kepler; 10-21-2016, 05:33 PM.
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          • #140
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            • #141
              Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

              With Trump as President, does Roe get overturned?
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              • #142
                Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

                Originally posted by ShirtlessBob View Post
                With Trump as President, does Roe get overturned?
                Yes. He just needs to replace Scalia and turn over one seat.
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                • #143
                  Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

                  Originally posted by ShirtlessBob View Post
                  With Trump as President, does Roe get overturned?
                  No. He would need to amend the Constitution or get the SCOTUS to overturn their prior ruling(s). There is no way that he has the political collateral or will to take on either of those options.
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                  • #144
                    Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

                    Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                    No. He would need to amend the Constitution or get the SCOTUS to overturn their prior ruling(s). There is no way that he has the political collateral or will to take on either of those options.
                    He will likely get 2-3 SCOTUS nominations, and he said he would nominate judges he considered to be likely to overturn Roe v Wade.

                    Why do you think he won't follow through?

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                    • #145
                      Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

                      Originally posted by ericredaxe View Post
                      Why do you think he won't follow through?
                      He won't follow through on his own volition, since Roe has undoubtedly saved him from a few bastard kids. Pence will tell him what to do, and then he'll do it. So, goodbye SCOTUS.

                      As for Roe, we'll see.

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                      • #146
                        Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

                        Originally posted by ShirtlessBob View Post
                        With Trump as President, does Roe get overturned?
                        What the heck would make you think they would even seek this out?! Is this just another one of the feminazi scare tactics by the mainstream media to scare you into voting for the globalist?

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                        • #147
                          Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

                          Originally posted by ShirtlessBob View Post
                          With Trump as President, does Roe get overturned?
                          No.






                          SCOTUS only rules on cases brought before it. Before they'd have a chance to rule on an abortion case, there'd have to be a case in the first place. Since Roe v Wade is now the law of the land, what kind of case could there be that would wind up on their docket?
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                          • #148
                            Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

                            Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
                            No.






                            SCOTUS only rules on cases brought before it. Before they'd have a chance to rule on an abortion case, there'd have to be a case in the first place. Since Roe v Wade is now the law of the land, what kind of case could there be that would wind up on their docket?
                            Add to that, as unofan mentioned in another thread, so many challenges to the law in regards to "reasonable" restrictions/access have been heard recently. Barring any unforeseen health issues, the Chief Justice isn't going anywhere, and I'm willing to bet he'd just not accept those cases, leaving them to stand on prior SCOTUS rulings.
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                            • #149
                              Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
                              No.






                              SCOTUS only rules on cases brought before it. Before they'd have a chance to rule on an abortion case, there'd have to be a case in the first place. Since Roe v Wade is now the law of the land, what kind of case could there be that would wind up on their docket?
                              That's easy, the next case involving state restrictions that gets appealed to it once the conservative wing thinks it had a shot of winning. They can throw some dicta in about Roe being ripe for review in light of new legal and medical developments, and invite a state to pass a law banning abortion to work its way to the court. There's only about 20 or so that would be eager to do so. Some might even have laws on the books still, and it would just be a matter of the state restarting enforcement of them.

                              That won't happen until they get someone new to replace Kennedy, RBG, or Breyer, though, because as it stands, they know Kennedy will side with the liberal wing on anything going too far.

                              And there's no guarantees that the new justices, or even Roberts, would be up for an outright overturn. But procedurally, it's easy to do.

                              In other words, the left really needs to hope those three justice's health holds out (at least) four more years.
                              Last edited by unofan; 11-09-2016, 03:05 PM.

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                              • #150
                                Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

                                Originally posted by unofan View Post
                                That's easy, the next case involving state restrictions that gets appealed to it once the conservative wing thinks it had a shot of winning. They can throw some dicta in about Roe being ripe for review in light of new legal and medical developments, and invite a state to pass a law banning abortion to work its way to the court. There's only about 20 or so that would be eager to do so. Some might even have laws on the books still, and it would just be a matter of the state restarting enforcement of them.

                                That won't happen until they get someone new to replace Kennedy, RBG, or Breyer, though, because as it stands, they know Kennedy will side with the liberal wing on anything going too far.

                                And there's no guarantees that the new justices, or even Roberts, would be up for an outright overturn. But procedurally, it's easy to do.

                                In other words, the left really needs to hope those three justice's health holds out (at least) four more years.
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