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  • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

    Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    This is just a publicity stunt prior to Israeli elections. A chance for Netanyahu to come over here and wag his finger at Obama to stir up his base in Israel, followed by a chance for idiots like Cruz to beat their chests and make bombastic comparisons.
    It's also the easiest thing in the world for him to criticize any attempt to resolve a difficult problem when he isn't offering a concrete alternative. This is just an attempt to steer US policy and sabotage negotiations. The last thing Likud wants is a compromise, as that would undercut their Manichean view of the universe and destroy them domestically.

    Bibi did a Dirty Harry drag act, so the gorillas will wank themselves silly over him. It's useless to tell people who get misty-eyed over the Gipper that posturing is the opposite of real leadership. They're allergic to complexity and will crawl over glass for somebody who tells them the world is white hats and black hats.
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    • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

      We thought Iran was harmless, and then in 1979, hostages were taken for 444 days. Are we going to make that same mistake again now that Jimmy Carter is effectively back in office?

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      • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

        Not equating the two, but would Churchill's speeches of the 1930's be classified as herpa-derp?
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        • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

          Originally posted by joecct View Post
          Not equating the two, but would Churchill's speeches of the 1930's be classified as herpa-derp?
          Please don't equate the two.

          Churchill was in the middle of a war rallying his population against an enemy that was bombing them every day. Bibi is electioneering and using us as a stalking horse and the GOP in Congress as a studio audience APPLAUSE sign.
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          • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

            Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
            We thought Iran was harmless, and then in 1979, hostages were taken for 444 days. Are we going to make that same mistake again now that Jimmy Carter is effectively back in office?
            You are a weird dude. In one breath you say stuff like this, and in the next you make the (entirely correct) observation that the Fear State is a mechanism used to keep dollars flowing to the 1%.

            You are falling for the very stuff you decry elsewhere.
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            • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

              That is cause he is trolling which is why I mocked you because you actually buy into what he is saying. Even his blow up "girlfriend" doesn't buy into the tripe he posts

              Seriously read aloud some of the stuff you two were saying, you sound like the weirdos who wrote into Jimmy Kimmel denouncing him for telling people to get vaccinated only with less spelling errors

              There is no NWO, there is no vast conspiracy of industrialists trying to take over the world and the doctors arent keeping us sick just so they can make profit and keep us in line so the 1% can centralize more power and put chips in our brains. Rich/powerful people are greedy and stupid people are stupid, been that way since the dawn of time. It doesnt take much to see the truth but you can twist yourself into a pretzel trying to convince yourself otherwise.

              (this is just a friendly reminder never to actually read what Flaggy posts because it will destroy your soul)
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              • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                You are a weird dude. In one breath you say stuff like this, and in the next you make the (entirely correct) observation that the Fear State is a mechanism used to keep dollars flowing to the 1%.

                You are falling for the very stuff you decry elsewhere.
                And yet, you missed the part of Dr. Day's warning that the next major war would not involve troops, but rather nukes.

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                • Originally posted by SteveP View Post
                  FYP


                  If Obama said half the shiat Bibi does, you'd call him a tyrant. Oh wait, you already do.

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                  • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

                    Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                    And yet, you missed the part of Dr. Day's warning that the next major war would not involve troops, but rather nukes.
                    It makes no sense to say on one hand that the elites run the world and orchestrate economic and political activity to further their stranglehold on power AND that they want to unleash the one "great equalizer" force that will destroy the institutions and goods they have hoarded for themselves.

                    You are right that there is a ruling class. You are right that they dominate economic and political institutions. But a nuclear confrontation is THE LAST thing they would want. As long as they fight their wars conventionally it's only our kids and our taxes that are affected. Nukes actually damage them.
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                    • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

                      Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                      That is cause he is trolling which is why I mocked you because you actually buy into what he is saying.
                      It's possible to say the game is rigged without believing that rainbow unicorns have rigged it.

                      Kepler without Flaggy: elites are powerful economic actors who channel politics
                      Flaggy without Kepler: elites are powerful political actors who channel economics
                      Kepler with Flaggy: elites act in their own interests

                      I'd say our area of intersection is pretty uncontroversial.
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                      • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

                        Originally posted by unofan View Post
                        If Obama said half the shiat Bibi does, you'd call him a tyrant. Oh wait, you already do.
                        The right loves Putin, too. The "party of liberty" has a hard-on for dictators because they show "resolve" and "strength," just like the OT God used to before He went soft.
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                        • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          Please don't equate the two.

                          Churchill was in the middle of a war rallying his population against an enemy that was bombing them every day. Bibi is electioneering and using us as a stalking horse and the GOP in Congress as a studio audience APPLAUSE sign.
                          Not 1940's Churchill, but 1930's Churchill when he was in the political wilderness. His warning speeches on the rising militarism of Germany were "alarmist".
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                          • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

                            Originally posted by joecct View Post
                            Not 1940's Churchill, but 1930's Churchill when he was in the political wilderness. His warning speeches on the rising militarism of Germany were "alarmist".
                            Ah, gotcha.

                            They wouldn't be herpa-derp, because Winnie was nothing if not utterly dismissive of the gorillas ("the greatest argument against democracy is a conversation with the average voter"). My question would be, had Churchill read Hitler's book when he was making those speeches? If he hadn't then I'll take the really untenable position and say he was alarmist -- just because you turn out to be right doesn't mean you knew what you were talking about. But my understanding of Mein Kampf is that the whole program's right there in black and white, right down to "promise western liberals anything -- they're decadent and lying to them is a cost-effective way of getting what you want," so if Churchill actually cited the Nazis' own statements then he gets credit for prescience rather than luck.

                            Off topic: I saw a corporate email today announcing the promotion of a guy named "M. Kampf." Gotta be rough to go through life with that name -- thanks a lot, Mom and Dad.
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                            • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

                              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              It makes no sense to say on one hand that the elites run the world and orchestrate economic and political activity to further their stranglehold on power AND that they want to unleash the one "great equalizer" force that will destroy the institutions and goods they have hoarded for themselves.

                              You are right that there is a ruling class. You are right that they dominate economic and political institutions. But a nuclear confrontation is THE LAST thing they would want. As long as they fight their wars conventionally it's only our kids and our taxes that are affected. Nukes actually damage them.
                              One thing I have come to learn is that nothing is done without reason. If countries are putting time and money towards nuclear arsenal, they intend to use it. The reason may not be clear. Could the Cold War arms race have been a "cry wolf" setup so that another country can use their arsenal "under the radar"?

                              Also, when it comes to said arms, there are plenty of shelters being built by the uber-rich, with anyone not in the in-crowd being lambasted for "prepping". Whether or not those things can withstand a nuclear blast, I don't know.

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                              • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

                                Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                                That is cause he is trolling which is why I mocked you because you actually buy into what he is saying. Even his blow up "girlfriend" doesn't buy into the tripe he posts
                                With a paragraph like this, are you sure you should be the one that is determining what a "troll" is?

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