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  • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

    Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    More like war-baiting. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/02...pilot-killing/

    The key for the US is to not get any further involved. Yes, the actions of the Presidents of the 70's and 80's (helping Afghanistan and Iran against the USSR monetarily) made us "involved", but now is the time to be patient. Use our advantage of physical isolation, while they kill each other off.
    ISIS in particular. Let their own success destroy them -- let them alienate everyone in the region so they implode in on themselves. You know what is lethal to any Utopian movement, be it economic or religious? Gaining power. Managing water and sewage, electricity, roads. Keeping constituents happy.

    No insurgency can survive without local support. Bombing them just creates martyrs (and the "collateral damage" creates new recruits, as we accidentally murder the uncles and mothers of the very kids we're trying to save -- c.f. Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia).

    Containment isn't macho and it doesn't appeal to the gorillas, but it wins.
    Last edited by Kepler; 02-05-2015, 08:46 AM.
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    • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      ISIS in particular. Let their own success destroy them -- let them alienate everyone in the region so they implode in on themselves. You know what is lethal to any Utopian movement, be it economic or religious? Gaining power. Managing water and sewage, electricity, roads. Keeping constituents happy.

      No insurgency can survive without local support. Bombing them just creates martyrs (and the "collateral damage" creates new recruits, as we accidentally murder the uncles and mothers of the very kids we're trying to save -- c.f. Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia).

      Containment isn't macho and it doesn't appeal to the gorillas, but it wins.
      That being said, as much as being patient helps in battle, it can't be to the point where your enemy technologically advances beyond your control while being blind to it. Yes, I just compared the ISIS situation to Starcraft II. You'd be surprised at how much a RTS game can teach you about tactics, though.

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      • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

        Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
        That being said, as much as being patient helps in battle, it can't be to the point where your enemy technologically advances beyond your control while being blind to it. Yes, I just compared the ISIS situation to Starcraft II. You'd be surprised at how much a RTS game can teach you about tactics, though.
        Do you really think the CIA and Army Intelligence aren't constantly watching as much of ISIS as possible and interviewing their enemies to get a more intimate handle on weapons and tactics deployed?
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        • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

          Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
          Do you really think the CIA and Army Intelligence aren't constantly watching as much of ISIS as possible and interviewing their enemies to get a more intimate handle on weapons and tactics deployed?
          Just as we spied the borscht out of the Soviets, but we didn't send the 3rd Armor across the Fulda Gap.
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          • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

            Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
            Do you really think the CIA and Army Intelligence aren't constantly watching as much of ISIS as possible and interviewing their enemies to get a more intimate handle on weapons and tactics deployed?
            I never said they weren't. Even if you knew, you still have to be able to counteract the advancement, or roll the dice and go for it before they complete the advancements.

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            • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

              Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
              I never said they weren't. Even if you knew, you still have to be able to counteract the advancement, or roll the dice and go for it before they complete the advancements.
              Just send in a spy to steal/sabotage their technology. If caught, their leader will probably declare war on you though.

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              • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

                Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                Just send in a spy to steal/sabotage their technology. If caught, their leader will probably declare war on you though.
                We're already in a bunch of endless wars thanks to the fascists.

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                • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

                  Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                  We're already in a bunch of endless wars thanks to the fascists.
                  No, we're in endless wars because we choose to be in them.
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                  • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

                    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    ISIS in particular. Let their own success destroy them
                    Yeah, this strategy certainly worked very well on the Spanish Inquisition.......eventually. As long as you personally never had to face the inquisitors, what does it matter how much torment was inflicted upon others in the name of the Almighty.
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                    • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

                      Now this news story is totally incredibly amazingly awesome. Mainstream Islam again wants to speak out against the fundamentalists who are giving their religion such a bad name.

                      LOS ANGELES—A women’s-only mosque launched here last week and believed to be the first of its kind in the U.S. has sparked a nationwide discussion among Muslims over the role of women in Islam.

                      “The debate has started that will have monumental consequences for Muslims,” said Aslam Abdullah, the imam and director of the Islamic Society of Nevada, in Las Vegas. “The old establishment will not accept change easily, but I think gradually it will happen as women assert themselves. Things are changing. Women cannot play second fiddle any more.”

                      ....

                      Muslim women have long complained of feeling marginalized at traditional mosques, where they often are separated from the main worship space and don’t have much opportunity to engage with the preacher, or imam, after services. Some mosques don’t admit women at all; more conservative scholars believe women’s prayers are best offered at home.

                      ...

                      Hind Makki, a Muslim woman in Chicago who consults with mosques around the country on women’s inclusion, said responses across the Muslim community fall roughly into three basic categories: conservatives who say “the mosque and all-female Friday prayer is a sin”; women and some men who say it’s “awesome and what we’ve been waiting for”; and others who say it “raises critical questions” about women’s experiences inside mosques, and Islamic law.

                      ....

                      Yasir Qadhi, an influential Muslim scholar in Memphis, Tenn., with a large following, wrote on his Facebook page Monday: “It is an undeniable reality that women’s prayer spaces…are less accessible, less clean, and less maintained than the men’s sections.” He added: “We either put them in the same hall as the men…or provide state of the art [audio video] access to the lectures.

                      “Rather than believe that they should stay home, we need to contextualize our environment and ENCOURAGE our sisters to come to the most blessed places in their cities: their mosques,” Mr. Qadhi wrote.
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                      • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

                        Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
                        Now this news story is totally incredibly amazingly awesome. Mainstream Islam again wants to speak out against the fundamentalists who are giving their religion such a bad name.
                        Now that's a hero. Brian Williams, no. Aslam Abdullah, yes.
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                        • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

                          Pentagon says Putin has Asperger's.

                          For some reason the script that is used for the link box keeps freezing my browser, so I'll just have to post it in HTML form.
                          http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...agon/22855927/
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                          • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

                            I think he's just a good old-fashioned megalomaniac/sociopath.

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                            • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

                              Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                              I think he's just a good old-fashioned megalomaniac/sociopath.
                              --->insert picture of shirtless Putin riding a horse.
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                              • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

                                Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                                I think he's just a good old-fashioned megalomaniac/sociopath.
                                No reason he can't be both.

                                Putin's a classic "Strongman." Eastern Europe seems to really dig them. Their weather sucks and they're mostly poor. If Minnesota had a 200-year long depression, they'd wind up ruled by Putin.
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