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  • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

    Weird thing about Ukraine saying Russian troops on their territory and Russia denying it. I'm guessing they're there.

    Weird because our satellites know the answer 100%.
    Go Gophers!

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    • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      That's the cover story they use to keep you fighting against your interests and for theirs. Don't take my word for it, just look at the recent economic history of the United States since a large number of people fell for, er, adopted that viewpoint.

      As long as the people were the government, big business had reason to fear. So they created an ideology where people would attack or at least lose interest in government, so they could take it over.

      Whenever people say "I hate government" they're saying "I hate democracy." The only other effective power is the business world, which is just as bureaucratic, just as rentier, just as corrupt... but is also anti-democratic.

      If you would like to see people free to pursue their own interests, you are backing exactly the wrong horse, at least at this time in history.
      We've never been a democracy. It is a Constitutional Republic. To push for democracy means the country is vulnerable to a good campaigner that pulls a bait and switch.

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      • Originally posted by unofan View Post
        So what's big business in this analogy? The emerald ash borer? Some other pest which does as much or more destruction than the ivy while hidden away from plain sight?
        I can't believe there are still people who think the financial crisis happened because we had too much government oversight.

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        • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

          Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
          We've never been a democracy. It is a Constitutional Republic.
          Small 'd' democracy.
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          • Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
            I can't believe there are still people who think the financial crisis happened because we had too much government oversight.
            Greed is good. And given the relationship between Washington and Wall Street what supervision? It's the fox guarding the hen house.
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            • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

              Well yeah with Bush in office it's not a that surprising it happened...

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                Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
                Well yeah with Bush in office it's not a that surprising it happened...
                Liz is not exactly happy with the current state of affairs. She did block another cousin marrying in.
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                • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

                  Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
                  Well yeah with Bush in office it's not a that surprising it happened...
                  How much is Soros paying you?

                  In order for the price of a stock to move, there must be either a trade, or a cash dividend payment. The latter generally happens once a quarter, and at pretty regular intervals. Someone had to sell, and someone had to buy. There are likely a few traders probably in the Caribbean right now that became VERY rich from those sales.

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                  • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

                    Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                    In order for the price of a stock to move, there must be either a trade, or a cash dividend payment.
                    Yes on the former, not the latter. A stock's price does not fall automatically when a dividend is paid out. And the key words are "a trade." Stock prices are based upon the last recorded trade.

                    10,000,000 people own one share of X at $1. X is valued of $10,000,000.
                    One person makes a trade at $2. The company now has a value of $20,000,000. And every stock holder's account will show that their individual shares have doubled in price.
                    There were not 9,999,999 other trades. And there's no guarantee there will be 9,999,999 other buyers at that price. But on paper, the company (and it's shareholders' stake in it) doubled in value.

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                      If you buy a stock solely because of the price, let me save you some trouble: invest in lottery tickets.
                      The preceding post may contain trigger words and is not safe-space approved. <-- Virtue signaling.

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                      • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

                        This picture is absolutely perfect.

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                        • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

                          Originally posted by unofan View Post
                          Yes on the former, not the latter. A stock's price does not fall automatically when a dividend is paid out. And the key words are "a trade." Stock prices are based upon the last recorded trade.

                          10,000,000 people own one share of X at $1. X is valued of $10,000,000.
                          One person makes a trade at $2. The company now has a value of $20,000,000. And every stock holder's account will show that their individual shares have doubled in price.
                          There were not 9,999,999 other trades. And there's no guarantee there will be 9,999,999 other buyers at that price. But on paper, the company (and it's shareholders' stake in it) doubled in value.
                          This is true, and is also a potential "bug" in Google Finance, because they will set the "change" on the ex-dividend date based upon the value of stock dropping by the value of the dividend. That is, if it's a $10 stock and a 0.25 dividend, the change 0.00 will be set at 9.75, not 10.00. Pre-market and early hours bid/ask (the TRUE price) will still value the company based on the payment of the dividend, so if you have some extra capital and the desire to do a manual version of a DRIP (as most discount brokers don't offer them anymore), you can get yourself a pretty good bargain.

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                          • Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine

                            Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
                            If you buy a stock solely because of the price, let me save you some trouble: invest in lottery tickets.
                            Why such a high house advantage? At least give yourself a better chance at the craps table.

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                              Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                              Why such a high house advantage? At least give yourself a better chance at the craps table.
                              Are you figuring in the cost of the trip to Vegas/AC/Biloxi?
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                                Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
                                If you buy a stock solely because of the price, let me save you some trouble: invest in lottery tickets.
                                I wish I could remember the text from a classic lottery commercial. People were discussing investments, and one person said, "I prefer a highly speculative venture with a low capital outlay and high upside potential."

                                Buying lottery tickets is an inexpensive form of entertainment. I don't think the word "invest" applies.


                                My rate of return is > - 100%, I won $7 once and $4 twice. $1 or $2 whenever there is a big jackpot; not a weekly playa.
                                "Hope is a good thing; maybe the best of things."

                                "Beer is a sign that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -- Benjamin Franklin

                                "Being Irish, he had an abiding sense of tragedy, which sustained him through temporary periods of joy." -- W. B. Yeats

                                "People generally are most impatient with those flaws in others about which they are most ashamed of in themselves." - folk wisdom

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