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  • #1051
    Re: Nice Planet #8: You People Make Me Sick.

    Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
    Or, possibly, "all reports" weren't even close to accurate. This woman clearly was not well trained. She may have had training. It may have even been expertly provided. But it didn't stick.

    But then again, training had nothing to do with this. You don't need any training to know you don't give a 2 year old a loaded handgun. All you need is the common sense at least as great as a bowl of bean dip.
    Nods.

    I'm all for guns. But stupid people need to friggin' learn. Stupid people like this mom.
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    • #1052
      Re: Nice Planet #8: You People Make Me Sick.

      So you want it both ways? The fat guy would be alive if he wasn't breaking the law, just like the women would be alive if she wasn't carrying a loaded weapon. Both were their choices and both were totally preventable.
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      • #1053
        Re: Nice Planet #8: You People Make Me Sick.

        Originally posted by walrus View Post
        So you want it both ways? The fat guy would be alive if he wasn't breaking the law, just like the women would be alive if she wasn't carrying a loaded weapon. Both were their choices and both were totally preventable.
        No, I'm just willing to accept there are shades of grey. Unfortunately the stupidity of this woman was so off the charts it's as close to black and white as you can get on this planet.
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        • #1054
          Re: Nice Planet #8: You People Make Me Sick.

          Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
          Nods.

          I'm all for guns. But stupid people need to friggin' learn. Stupid people like this mom.
          I wonder if she's learned. Let's ask her....oh...

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          • #1055
            Re: Nice Planet #8: You People Make Me Sick.

            Originally posted by Priceless View Post
            I wonder if she's learned. Let's ask her....oh...
            I'm sad she died, don't get me wrong. But I will also thank Darwin.
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            • #1056
              Re: Nice Planet #8: You People Make Me Sick.

              Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
              I'm sad she died, don't get me wrong. But I will also thank Darwin.
              People keep saying that but she already passed on her genes so she doesn't qualify for a Darwin Award...

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              • #1057
                Re: Nice Planet #8: You People Make Me Sick.

                Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                People keep saying that but she already passed on her genes so she doesn't qualify for a Darwin Award...
                You do have a point. Hopefully the dad is smarter, and the kid takes after him.
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                • #1058
                  Re: Nice Planet #8: You People Make Me Sick.

                  Why would an presumably intelligent woman (researcher at a national lab) feel that she needs to carry in Walmart in Idaho? I'd say that says as much about the world we're in as her.

                  Next, what model handgun was she carrying? If she was trained and educated (as it seems she was as she was permitted), did she choose a poor carry weapon for her circumstance? With kids around I'd say she should've been carrying a revolver or a Smith & Wesson M&P series semi-auto or a Ruger semi-auto. Those have thumb switch safeties plus staged triggers.

                  Me? I carry a Springfield XDM Compact chambered in .40 caliber. The XDM, similar to Glocks, does not have a thumb switch safety. My XDM has a back strap safety (proper grip) and a staged trigger; Glocks only have staged triggers. I like my XDM the way it is: chambered, grip, point, trigger. If I pick it up and point it at something it's purposeful. But I don't have two year olds around me either. And I'm relentless in that if it's not on me it's in the vault.

                  If she was carrying a semi-auto, why was it chambered ("racked in"). I tend to carry my XDM with a loaded magazine, and a spare magazine, but not racked (meaning there's no round in the firing chamber). I know that I've been "scolded" by many (including cops and former cops) that it's stupid to not have it chambered and ready. I consider not chambered a safety ... and I also know the sound of someone racking a semi-auto, like the sound of actuating the pump on a shotgun, are distinctive sounds that tend to work in your favor.

                  Basically, what I'm saying is this: if your knee-jerk reaction is a paleo-"gun bad" (and you know who you are) you aren't helping; actually, you're no better than this. I guess I'm saying you don't ask blue hairs driving Buicks to make rules for NASCAR.
                  Last edited by The Sicatoka; 01-01-2015, 12:13 PM.
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                  • #1059
                    Re: Nice Planet #8: You People Make Me Sick.

                    Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post

                    If she was carrying a semi-auto, why was it chambered ("racked in"). I tend to carry my XDM with a loaded magazine, and a spare magazine, but not racked (meaning there's no round in the firing chamber). I know that I've been "scolded" by many (including cops and former cops) that it's stupid to not have it chambered and ready. I consider not chambered a safety ... and I also know the sound of someone racking a semi-auto, like the sound of actuating the pump on a shotgun, are distinctive sounds that tend to work in your favor.
                    Would have to agree with you on that.
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                    • #1060
                      Re: Nice Planet #8: You People Make Me Sick.

                      Terry Rutledge, Veronica's father-in-law, told The Spokesman-Review that the boy unzipped the special gun compartment in the woman's purse where the weapon was kept while she was looking at clothing.

                      Terry Rutledge said his daughter-in-law did not put the weapon "loosely into her purse."

                      Victoria Rutledge had a concealed weapons permit, and guns were a big part of Rutledge's life, her father-in-law said.

                      "She was not the least bit irresponsible," Terry Rutledge said in a brief interview with The Associated Press. He complained about people using the incident to attack his daughter-in-law.
                      http://www.startribune.com/politics/...287184501.html

                      So, now it is not irresponsible to carry a loaded gun within reach of a two year old and get shot with it.

                      What exactly is ANYONE responsible for anymore? Anything?
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                      • #1061
                        Re: Nice Planet #8: You People Make Me Sick.

                        Guns in the US have become a fetish. These people are just going through a cultural ritual, nothing more. It's about identity. Their voodoo is if they tap these little dildos together three times they'll be transported back home to a world without gays, minorities, and non-Christians, where women shut up and get them a sammich.
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                        • #1062
                          Re: Nice Planet #8: You People Make Me Sick.

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          Guns in the US have become a fetish. These people are just going through a cultural ritual, nothing more. It's about identity. Their voodoo is if they tap these little dildos together three times they'll be transported back home to a world without gays, minorities, and non-Christians, where women shut up and get them a sammich.
                          There's a lot of weirdly misplaced rage in this post that makes me hope you don't have access to a gun. But even though there are certainly a lot of fools in the world,
                          1. This owner was actually a woman herself
                          2. Most owners just use guns to kill tasty animals which they eat for food. Delish!
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                          • #1063
                            Re: Nice Planet #8: You People Make Me Sick.

                            As a woman who carries a purse, I don't even take my purse off my arm in a store, much less leave it untended while looking at something, because it's not safe. And I don't even carry a gun.

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                            • #1064
                              Re: Nice Planet #8: You People Make Me Sick.

                              Originally posted by geezer View Post
                              There's a lot of weirdly misplaced rage in this post that makes me hope you don't have access to a gun. But even though there are certainly a lot of fools in the world,
                              1. This owner was actually a woman herself
                              2. Most owners just use guns to kill tasty animals which they eat for food. Delish!
                              How much food is left over after the brave hunter uses an assault rifle on a deer?

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                              • #1065
                                Re: Nice Planet #8: You People Make Me Sick.

                                Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                                How much food is left over after the brave hunter uses an assault rifle on a deer?
                                It'll be pretty much the same as if that hunter had used any other rifle on a deer.
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