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  • #91
    Re: Chess

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    Catholics ... who believe women are by divine decree "lesser" than men
    you mis-state Catholic doctrine here. Women and men have different roles, not because women are "lesser" but merely because women have the biological capacity to bear children. If anything, women have an elevated role in Catholicism (see the special reverence given to Mary for example, she is higher than any mortal male in the Catholic "pantheon"). Priests are male because they cannot bear children and they are celibate so that they are not tempted to divide their loyalty between their own offspring and their "flock" in general. If women were priests then, given their capacity to "be fruitful and multiply," they would then "inevitably" be placed in a position of divided loyalty between their own offspring and their "flock."



    Weird, how this discussion came about in this thread.
    Last edited by FreshFish; 01-15-2015, 12:01 PM.
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    • #92
      Re: Chess

      Quite a bit has happened since the last update I posted.

      Can find the full standings here, but at last mention Caruana was 2/2 to start and Carlsen was struggling. Enough so that many openly suggested Carlsen had peaked and his interests in other things in life would prove his chess downfall. Ten days later, Caruana and everyone else have been up and down while Carlsen rattled off six straight wins before a quick 17 move draw with Ivanchuk ended the streak. Not only did Carlsen go on a tear but his wins have been crushingly methodical. He has continually worked players into complex games and then destroyed them from those positions -- his specialty. His win with black over Caruana was especially interesting as everything made sense up to move 11. After a conventional opening Carlsen moved his kingside knight to h5, which is anything but conventional and led to a game Caruana could not control -- no matter how well his opening lines were prepared. Admittedly, after that knight hit the outside the game was outside of my scope of full understanding so I can't add much more aside from the fact it became so complex Caruana ended up feeding himself to Carlsen.

      Long story short, Carlsen is anything but over the hill. His performances over the past week+ have people flat out conceding he is a machine. Standings are linked above but he's a point up on two players with three rounds to go. All told, six players are within 1.5 so the last three days at least hold some potential for drama, though if Carlsen manages to win out his rating will dance with 2900 which is unprecedented.

      As a side note, one of the more notable stories thus far has been the play of 21yo American (by way of Philippines) Wesley So. He's one of the two just a single point back of Carlsen. Slim odds to catch him but a great performance nonetheless. It's nice to see another very young up-and-comer join Giri, Caruana, etc. as fresh faces who will be in the mix for the next decade.
      Last edited by XYZ; 01-23-2015, 03:27 AM.
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      • #93
        Re: Chess

        Cheater!
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        • #94
          Re: Chess


          Um. There's one slight problem with this story.

          Tigran Petrosian has been dead for 30 years.
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          • #95
            Re: Chess

            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
            Um. There's one slight problem with this story.

            Tigran Petrosian has been dead for 30 years.
            It just shows how many moves he was ahead of the rest of the world in more things than just chess.
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            • #96
              Re: Chess

              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              Um. There's one slight problem with this story.

              Tigran Petrosian has been dead for 30 years.
              Tigran V. Petrosian is dead, his son Tigran L Petrosian is a grandmaster.

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tigran_L._Petrosian
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              • #97
                Re: Chess

                Originally posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
                Tigran V. Petrosian is dead, his son Tigran L Petrosian is a grandmaster.

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tigran_L._Petrosian
                Oh. Cool beans, thanks!
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                • #98
                  Re: Chess

                  Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                  It just shows how many moves he was ahead of the rest of the world in more things than just chess.
                  To be honest, I couldn't get more than a draw from a dead grandmaster.
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                  • #99
                    Re: Chess

                    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    To be honest, I couldn't get more than a draw from a dead grandmaster.
                    Pretty sure a dead grandmaster would still crush me.
                    If you don't change the world today, how can it be any better tomorrow?

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                    • Re: Chess

                      538 article on the renaissance of American chess.
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                      National Champion 1967, 1970
                      ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
                      Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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                      • Re: Chess

                        This is interesting.
                        Cornell University
                        National Champion 1967, 1970
                        ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
                        Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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                        • Re: Chess

                          Has anyone here seen this movie?

                          The Queen of Katwe tells the rags-to-riches story of Phiona Mutesi, a young, uneducated slum girl who first turned up at one of the Katwe Academy's chess sessions in 2005, mostly for the free porridge.

                          A few years later she became the first female winner of the country's junior chess championships and by the age of 17, she was representing Uganda at international competitions.
                          Cornell University
                          National Champion 1967, 1970
                          ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
                          Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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                          • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            Has anyone here seen this movie?
                            Has it been released yet? I thought it was coming out in September but could certainly be wrong about that.
                            I wish I am able to live long enough to do all the things I was attributed to.

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                            • Re: Chess

                              Originally posted by XYZ View Post
                              Has it been released yet? I thought it was coming out in September but could certainly be wrong about that.
                              That may be. I hadn't heard anything about it until now. Apparently it's already released in Asia since it's already having an impact.
                              Cornell University
                              National Champion 1967, 1970
                              ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
                              Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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                              • Re: Chess

                                A bit sad I didn't ever see any of the old school russian ones.

                                What are your guys take on the current state of chess?

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