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    I would like to upgrade the memory in my desktop computer, a Gateway FX530XM. It currently has 2 gigabytes of memory. The most that the computer can support is 8 gigabytes, however with a 32-bit operating system 4 gigabytes is all that can be addressed.

    The 2 gigabytes that I have is made up of 2 1-gig modules. I assume that there is no difference in having 4 1-gig modules compared to 2 2-gig modules. Thus it is cheapest now to buy 2 more 1-gig modules. Does that make sense?

    The four slots are called
    Channel A slot 0
    Channel A slot 1
    Channel B slot 0
    Channel B slot 1

    The two modules are in Channel A slot 0 and Channel B slot 0. I was reading that memory in the 2 slots in the same channel should match. Thus, I should move one of the modules, say the one from Channel A slot 0 to Channel B slot 1. Correct?

    I went to Crucial Memory's website to find out what kind of memory I should get. They gave a lot of different choices. The modules are described as DDR2-667, DDR2-800, and DDR2-1066. Do the different numbers refer to speed? The packing slip/invoice doesn't say what speed memory I currently have. If I take out the memory currently in the computer, should the labels answer the question? Is it worth it to get the faster memory?
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    This sounds like Math and logic. Isn't that against the laws in here?

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      Originally posted by leswp1 View Post
      This sounds like Math and logic. Isn't that against the laws in here?
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        Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post
        I would like to upgrade the memory in my desktop computer, a Gateway FX530XM. It currently has 2 gigabytes of memory. The most that the computer can support is 8 gigabytes, however with a 32-bit operating system 4 gigabytes is all that can be addressed.

        The 2 gigabytes that I have is made up of 2 1-gig modules. I assume that there is no difference in having 4 1-gig modules compared to 2 2-gig modules. Thus it is cheapest now to buy 2 more 1-gig modules. Does that make sense?
        Supposedly, there actually is a slight difference. I would go with the four 1-gig sticks because (I think) that RAM is a parallel process and the more sticks you have, the better. Also, you're right that the limit for your machine is 4gigs. Even if you put in more, you won't see any benefit (hence why I am using a 64-bit OS).

        Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post
        The four slots are called
        Channel A slot 0
        Channel A slot 1
        Channel B slot 0
        Channel B slot 1

        The two modules are in Channel A slot 0 and Channel B slot 0. I was reading that memory in the 2 slots in the same channel should match. Thus, I should move one of the modules, say the one from Channel A slot 0 to Channel B slot 1. Correct?
        Your motherboard manual will tell you this information. My manual told me to keep corresponding slots in the different channels the same (both slot 0s are the same), and that would be my guess for your computer as well. If that wasn't the case, I think that when the RAM came installed, they would both be on Channel A.

        Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post
        I went to Crucial Memory's website to find out what kind of memory I should get. They gave a lot of different choices. The modules are described as DDR2-667, DDR2-800, and DDR2-1066. Do the different numbers refer to speed? The packing slip/invoice doesn't say what speed memory I currently have. If I take out the memory currently in the computer, should the labels answer the question? Is it worth it to get the faster memory?
        You should not mix memory speeds. Mixing memory speeds is a quick and easy way to cause your computer to not like you. There are a bunch of sites out there where you can scan your system to find information like this. A quick Google search for me yielded pcpitstop.com, crucial.com, memtest.org, and "CPU-Z". Another method is to enter the BIOS for your motherboard. However, in the BIOS, you have the capability to change settings which could easily end in disaster.


        If this was TL;DR: Don't mix RAM speeds, so scan your system and make sure you check your motherboard manual before installing the new RAM.
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          Everest Home Edition is a free download that will give you all the information about your system, including memory.

          Good luck with the upgrade. I recently went one better -- buying a new Gateway with a dual-core processor, 4 gigs of RAM and 1 Tb hard drive. Smokin' fast compared to my five-year old machine.
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            Originally posted by burgie12 View Post
            Your motherboard manual will tell you this information. My manual told me to keep corresponding slots in the different channels the same (both slot 0s are the same), and that would be my guess for your computer as well. If that wasn't the case, I think that when the RAM came installed, they would both be on Channel A.
            I don't have a motherboard manual.


            Originally posted by burgie12 View Post
            You should not mix memory speeds. Mixing memory speeds is a quick and easy way to cause your computer to not like you. There are a bunch of sites out there where you can scan your system to find information like this. A quick Google search for me yielded pcpitstop.com, crucial.com, memtest.org, and "CPU-Z". Another method is to enter the BIOS for your motherboard. However, in the BIOS, you have the capability to change settings which could easily end in disaster.
            I had tried using Crucial.com because that is what we use at work, but it didn't tell me the speed of the memory that I have. Are the other sides which you mentioned legitimate, or might they put viruses on my computer?

            Originally posted by SteveP View Post
            Everest Home Edition is a free download that will give you all the information about your system, including memory.

            Good luck with the upgrade. I recently went one better -- buying a new Gateway with a dual-core processor, 4 gigs of RAM and 1 Tb hard drive. Smokin' fast compared to my five-year old machine.
            That is another option, but this computer is not quite 3 years old, so I figured to go with an upgrade at this time.
            Last edited by Ralph Baer; 12-19-2009, 01:13 PM.
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              Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post
              I don't have a motherboard manual.
              Hmm. This might take more googling. Do you have more information about the computer? You said it was gateway, but is there any more information, like the model? Basically, there should be something in between "Gateway" and the number.

              Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post
              I had tried using Crucial.com because that is what we use at work, but it didn't tell me the speed of the memory that I have. Are the otehr sides which you mentioned legiitamte, ro might they put viruses on my computer?
              I would trust memtest, but I am also skeptical of pcpitstop and have no information on CPU-Z.
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                Originally posted by burgie12 View Post
                Hmm. This might take more googling. Do you have more information about the computer? You said it was gateway, but is there any more information, like the model? Basically, there should be something in between "Gateway" and the number.



                I would trust memtest, but I am also skeptical of pcpitstop and have no information on CPU-Z.
                It's a Gateway FX530XM. Crucial's test gave the motherboard as an Intel OEMD975XBGG1. Among all the Google results it seems like 667 is the maximum.
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                  Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post
                  It's a Gateway FX530XM. Crucial's test gave the motherboard as an Intel OEMD975XBGG1. Among all the Google results it seems like 667 is the maximum.
                  2048MB 667MHz Dual-Channel DDR2 SDRAM (2-1024MB modules)

                  That's what you have in there right now, straight from Gateway's site for your machine.

                  Ralph, after some browsing, here's a couple options for you at prices you likely won't beat:

                  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146526

                  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231108

                  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820134046

                  Basically, you're looking for DDR2 (240 pin), 667 MHz (PC2 5300) speed, 2x1GB sticks.
                  Last edited by hockeyplayer1015; 12-19-2009, 11:15 AM.

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                    Originally posted by hockeyplayer1015 View Post
                    2048MB 667MHz Dual-Channel DDR2 SDRAM (2-1024MB modules)

                    That's what you have in there right now, straight from Gateway's site for your machine.

                    Ralph, after some browsing, here's a couple options for you at prices you likely won't beat:

                    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146526

                    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231108

                    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820134046

                    Basically, you're looking for DDR2 (240 pin), 667 MHz (PC2 5300) speed, 2x1GB sticks.
                    Thanks.

                    Gateway has a site for my computer. Why didn't I think of that?

                    BTW, that is what I thought I needed. I wonder if any of those brands is better than the others. They differ significantly in price.
                    Last edited by Ralph Baer; 12-19-2009, 12:09 PM.
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                      Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post
                      Thanks.

                      Gateway has a site for my commputer. Why didn't I think of that?

                      BTW, that is what I thought I needed. I wonder if any of those brands is better than the others. They differ significantly in price.
                      generally speaking, crucial, kingston, gskill and corsair are all good names in memoryland. I would go down through the reviews and pick one based on those. There really shouldn't be much of a difference between them though.

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                        All three of those are good memory options, so go with the Crucial, which is cheapest.
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                          I bought the Crucial memory from Newegg.
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                            Originally posted by burgie12 View Post
                            I would trust memtest, but I am also skeptical of pcpitstop and have no information on CPU-Z.
                            CPU-Z is good. Very lightweight, tells you what you need to know about memory timings/CPU frequencies/etc.

                            Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post
                            The four slots are called
                            Channel A slot 0
                            Channel A slot 1
                            Channel B slot 0
                            Channel B slot 1

                            The two modules are in Channel A slot 0 and Channel B slot 0. I was reading that memory in the 2 slots in the same channel should match. Thus, I should move one of the modules, say the one from Channel A slot 0 to Channel B slot 1. Correct?
                            I confirmed with my own motherboard manual and this that you want to keep things the way they are. Channel A slot 0 is paired with Channel B slot 0, and Channel A slot 1 is paired with Channel B slot 1. I realized I've never had to think about that before because all of my motherboards have had the memory slots color-coded .

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                              Originally posted by kdilks View Post
                              CPU-Z is good. Very lightweight, tells you what you need to know about memory timings/CPU frequencies/etc.



                              I confirmed with my own motherboard manual and this that you want to keep things the way they are. Channel A slot 0 is paired with Channel B slot 0, and Channel A slot 1 is paired with Channel B slot 1. I realized I've never had to think about that before because all of my motherboards have had the memory slots color-coded .
                              Thanks. It seemed weird because the slots are in the order that I listed them. The two slot 0's are differently colored form the two slot 1's.
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