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  • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
    Exactly, the problem isnt the need for an ID, the problem is changing the law right before the election which is a way to keep people from voting. If this is such a big deal fight for the law right after the previous election so everyone has plenty of time to prepare. We know that isnt the motive though
    My favorite part about Texas's law is that gun permits are acceptable but college IDs are not. I'm not sure it'd be possible to be more blatantly partisan than that.

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    • Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

      Originally posted by unofan View Post
      My favorite part about Texas's law is that gun permits are acceptable but college IDs are not. I'm not sure it'd be possible to be more blatantly partisan than that.
      And that's the part not reflected by most (or all) the right wingers and Fix News. It's not the laws themselves but the way the laws are written that's the problem.
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      • Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

        Or you could have reasonable voter ID laws.

        Seriously, Alaska cannot do almost all things right but, our Voter ID law is one of the few.
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        • Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

          Originally posted by unofan View Post
          My favorite part about Texas's law is that gun permits are acceptable but college IDs are not. I'm not sure it'd be possible to be more blatantly partisan than that.
          Skin color, maybe. "If you're too black you don't read on this scanner so we can't be sure you're here. But it's fair because everybody runs through the same detector..."

          Different process; same intention. I'm sure the states with literacy tests and the like in the 50's made a big show of how it was all about "the well-being of the political process." Even a GOPer should understand that was bad, since then it was the Democrats doing it.

          In 30 years, this is going to viewed exactly the way we view this.
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          • Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

            Originally posted by unofan View Post
            My favorite part about Texas's law is that gun permits are acceptable but college IDs are not. I'm not sure it'd be possible to be more blatantly partisan than that.
            Here is the Texas website regarding what is, or is not, required.

            http://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections...argepamp.shtml

            As for ID's, basically if the Texas Department of Public Safety, or the United States government, issued it, it's ok. Bay Ridge Christian College ID, not so much.
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            • Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

              I know its against board rules, but I've discovered Bob's real name and profession!

              Anthony Culler (R), who is challenging Rep. James Clyburn's (D-SC) for Congress, referred to same-sex couples as "gremlins" and "bullies" in a Facebook post, according to The Hill.

              Culler decried same-sex marriage as "a pestilence that has descended on our society, against our will, by those in the courts and government that do not value the traditional family. Same sex couples that seek to destroy our way of life and the institution of marriage are NOT cute and cuddly but rather (for those of you that are old enough to remember the movie), Gremlins that will only destroy our way of life."

              Just kidding Bob before you freak out.
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              • Originally posted by Rover View Post
                I know its against board rules, but I've discovered Bob's real name and profession!

                Anthony Culler (R), who is challenging Rep. James Clyburn's (D-SC) for Congress, referred to same-sex couples as "gremlins" and "bullies" in a Facebook post, according to The Hill.

                Culler decried same-sex marriage as "a pestilence that has descended on our society, against our will, by those in the courts and government that do not value the traditional family. Same sex couples that seek to destroy our way of life and the institution of marriage are NOT cute and cuddly but rather (for those of you that are old enough to remember the movie), Gremlins that will only destroy our way of life."

                Just kidding Bob before you freak out.
                Can't be Bob. Bob wouldn't get the movie reference since he doesn't follow pop culture.

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                  Originally posted by Rover View Post
                  I know its against board rules, but I've discovered Bob's real name and profession!

                  Anthony Culler (R), who is challenging Rep. James Clyburn's (D-SC) for Congress, referred to same-sex couples as "gremlins" and "bullies" in a Facebook post, according to The Hill.

                  Culler decried same-sex marriage as "a pestilence that has descended on our society, against our will, by those in the courts and government that do not value the traditional family. Same sex couples that seek to destroy our way of life and the institution of marriage are NOT cute and cuddly but rather (for those of you that are old enough to remember the movie), Gremlins that will only destroy our way of life."

                  Just kidding Bob before you freak out.
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                  Good to see you're so reasonable.
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                  Very well, said.
                  Originally posted by Rover
                  A fair assessment Bob.

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                    Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                    Here is the Texas website regarding what is, or is not, required.

                    http://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections...argepamp.shtml

                    As for ID's, basically if the Texas Department of Public Safety, or the United States government, issued it, it's ok. Bay Ridge Christian College ID, not so much.
                    Seems logical.
                    Originally posted by Priceless
                    Good to see you're so reasonable.
                    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                    Very well, said.
                    Originally posted by Rover
                    A fair assessment Bob.

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                    • Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

                      Originally posted by Rover View Post
                      Anthony Culler (R), who is challenging Rep. James Clyburn's (D-SC) for Congress, referred to same-sex couples as "gremlins" and "bullies" in a Facebook post, according to The Hill.

                      Culler decried same-sex marriage as "a pestilence that has descended on our society, against our will, by those in the courts and government that do not value the traditional family. Same sex couples that seek to destroy our way of life and the institution of marriage are NOT cute and cuddly but rather (for those of you that are old enough to remember the movie), Gremlins that will only destroy our way of life."
                      What makes that analogy even dumber is that Gremlins is a comedy. Ooooooooooh, scary!

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                      • Originally posted by Rover View Post
                        I know its against board rules, but I've discovered Bob's real name and profession!

                        Anthony Culler (R), who is challenging Rep. James Clyburn's (D-SC) for Congress, referred to same-sex couples as "gremlins" and "bullies" in a Facebook post, according to The Hill.

                        Culler decried same-sex marriage as "a pestilence that has descended on our society, against our will, by those in the courts and government that do not value the traditional family. Same sex couples that seek to destroy our way of life and the institution of marriage are NOT cute and cuddly but rather (for those of you that are old enough to remember the movie), Gremlins that will only destroy our way of life."

                        Just kidding Bob before you freak out.
                        I always love the argument that gay people are going to destroy the institution of marriage by *participating* in it and extending it to even more people. Um, what?
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                        • Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

                          Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
                          I always love the argument that gay people are going to destroy the institution of marriage by *participating* in it and extending it to even more people. Um, what?
                          "Women's suffrage will destroy the institution of representative democracy." -- Same argument, 1915
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                          • Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

                            Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                            What makes that analogy even dumber is that Gremlins is a comedy. Ooooooooooh, scary!
                            Gremlins 2 is a comedy, but my possibly imperfect recollection is that Gremlins wasn't, or if it was, weighed a lot more towards scary than funny. Even in Gremlins 2, the bad guys are clearly dangerous.
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                            • Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

                              Assuming the good guys have won this round of the culture war...

                              "Essentially, as Northeastern, Midwestern and Western moderates became marginalised in the party, the Southern cultural conservatives took over the issue framing," he writes. "Whereas the former were true conservatives, fighting to preserve traditional cultural norms, the latter were radicals seeking to impose a puritanical set of policies with very little appeal on the country through the legislative process."

                              ... what's the next battle?

                              Dick Meyer of Scripps writes that while social issues may no longer be at the forefront of today's policy battles, the cultural polarisation that they reflected is still around and exacerbated by today's politicians.

                              Slate's Rehan Salam identifies the debate over religious freedom, embodied in the recent Supreme Court decision to allow employers to opt out of providing insurance that covers some forms of contraception, as a possible central focus of a renewed culture conflict.

                              "The next culture war could pit devout secularists against a shrinking religious minority determined to live in accordance with their beliefs," he writes.

                              The abortion issue also isn't going away, he notes, as some states continue to push for a ban on abortion after 20 weeks of pregnancy.

                              The next big debate could be about reproductive technology that doesn't yet exist, he says, such as artificial wombs and eugenics. Or it could have nothing to do with marriage and sex and instead be a result of the rise of Latino culture in the US.

                              "Given that the Latino population is poorer than the population at large, we can expect that its members will press for a larger share of public resources at a time when the white and black populations will be aging rapidly," he writes. "It is not at all obvious that non-Latinos will embrace this prospect."

                              The "culture war" as we know it may be coming to a close. Political conflict, drawn from differing agendas, experiences and priorities, is as old as humankind, however. It's not going anywhere.
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                              • Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

                                Eugenics? Heck we're killing babies now because they don't fit the right "profile". IIRC Eugenics was the big "thing" 100 years ago. Can't have those non whites breeding too much can we?

                                Artificial wombs? I can see it. Honor Harrington did it.

                                And the devout secularists are going to find out that their vision of Utopia isn't .
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