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  • #106
    Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

    Originally posted by Rover View Post
    That would be my guess as to the proper procedure here. Presumably doesn't it work the same way if you have a warrant for someone's apartment and their cell phone is there. Can't the cops seize it and then check it out if it was found as part of the search???
    Depends on how the warrant was written. I think.

    I have less of a problem with the phone being seized and then submit a warrant. As long as it's not accessed before the warrant.
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    May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
    Originally posted by bigblue_dl
    I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
    Originally posted by Kepler
    When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
    He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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    • #107
      Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

      Originally posted by unofan View Post
      If the goal is accurate elections, then the test for any new law respecting the right to vote should be simple. Does it prevent more fraudulent votes from being made than it discourages legitimate voters from casting? Since voting is a fundamental right, the burden is on the party pushing for the new measure to show that this is the case.

      If it can't meet that simple test, then the law is pointless since it makes the results worse (ie who cares about those 4 fraudulent votes if you're keeping 100 actual voters from voting - the net result is negative).
      From Wisconsin today.



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      • #108
        Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

        The federal judge who struck down Pennsylvania's gay marriage ban must be a flaming liberal, socialist Muslin.

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        • #109
          Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

          Originally posted by Rover View Post
          From Wisconsin today.



          http://www.politico.com/story/2014/0...153.html?hp=l9
          Why does that Judge hate America?
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          Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
          Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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          • #110
            Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

            Originally posted by Priceless View Post
            The federal judge who struck down Pennsylvania's gay marriage ban must be a flaming liberal, socialist Muslin.
            I believe every judge who has struck the bans has cited Justice Kennedy's DOMA opinion. Anyone who read his opinion could see the handwriting on the wall as he cited the 14th Amendment in the opinion.
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            • #111
              Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

              Originally posted by joecct View Post
              I believe every judge who has struck the bans has cited Justice Kennedy's DOMA opinion. Anyone who read his opinion could see the handwriting on the wall as he cited the 14th Amendment in the opinion.
              I have heard that he cited Scalia, but I have no idea. Obviously an Obama appointee.

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              • #112
                Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

                Originally posted by joecct View Post
                I believe every judge who has struck the bans has cited Justice Kennedy's DOMA opinion. Anyone who read his opinion could see the handwriting on the wall as he cited the 14th Amendment in the opinion.
                That bastage.
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                Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                • #113
                  Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

                  Originally posted by joecct View Post
                  I believe every judge who has struck the bans has cited Justice Kennedy's DOMA opinion. Anyone who read his opinion could see the handwriting on the wall as he cited the 14th Amendment in the opinion.
                  Hey, what can you expect when people cite a California liberal.
                  Originally posted by Priceless
                  Good to see you're so reasonable.
                  Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                  Very well, said.
                  Originally posted by Rover
                  A fair assessment Bob.

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                  • #114
                    Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

                    Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                    The federal judge who struck down Pennsylvania's gay marriage ban must be a flaming liberal, socialist Muslin.
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                    Originally posted by SanTropez
                    May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                    Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                    I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                    Originally posted by Kepler
                    When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                    He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                    • #115
                      Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

                      Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                      The nurses have apparently given OP the good stuff tonight since he hasn't bitten.

                      Actually, the federal judge who heard this case was a GW Bush appointee, praised by Rick Santorum and cited Justice Scalia in his ruling. I can't wait for heads to explode when bible-thumpers try to assimilate this contradictory information.

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                      • #116
                        Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

                        Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                        I have heard that he cited Scalia, but I have no idea. Obviously an Obama appointee.
                        IIRC Scalia cited Kennedy saying something to the effect that by invoking the 14th Amendment's equal protection clause in DOMA, there was no way any marriage laws could stand.
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                        • #117
                          Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

                          Big-time ruling in California today.

                          LOS ANGELES—In a closely watched court case that challenged California's strong teacher employment protections, a group of nine students have prevailed against the state and its two largest teachers' unions.

                          A California Superior Court on Tuesday found that all the state laws challenged in the case were unconstitutional.
                          ....
                          The student plaintiffs in Vergara v. California argued that the statutes protecting teachers' jobs serve more often to keep poor instructors in the schools—hurting students' chances to succeed.

                          Citing the Supreme Court's landmark Brown v. Board of Education ruling, Superior Court Judge Rolf M. Treu wrote in his decision that the laws in the case "impose a real and appreciable impact on the students' fundamental right to equality of education." The decision also agreed with the plaintiffs' arguments that the poorest teachers tend to end up in economically underprivileged schools and "impose a disproportionate burden on poor and minority students."
                          ....
                          Among the laws challenged in the case was California's "Last-In, First-Out" layoff statute, which requires layoffs based on seniority rather than classroom performance. Also challenged were complex dismissal statutes for ineffective teachers that plaintiffs described as costly, burdensome and involving "a borderline infinite number of steps."
                          ....
                          Research has pointed to teacher quality as the biggest in-school determinant for student performance.

                          To over-simplify, allowing ineffective teachers to remain in the classroom has now been found to be de facto discrimination against minorities and the poor.

                          Will this ruling encourage people in other states to bring similar suits?
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                          • #118
                            Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

                            Do they mean that the least financially well-off (poorest) teachers end up in the economically disadvantaged districts, or that the least effective (poorest) teachers end up there? Either way, a very poor (irony intended) choice of words.
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                            • #119
                              Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

                              Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
                              Do they mean that the least financially well-off (poorest) teachers end up in the economically disadvantaged districts, or that the least effective (poorest) teachers end up there? Either way, a very poor (irony intended) choice of words.
                              I think they were saying that the least effective teachers disproportionately end up in minority and economically disadvantaged districts. Quite an interesting ruling, though I'm struggling a little to get on board with the thought that tenure rules are discriminatory to kids, not just unfortunate for kids. I'm sure the unions will be appealing this with great vigor, so it'll be tied up a good while.
                              Originally posted by Priceless
                              Good to see you're so reasonable.
                              Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                              Very well, said.
                              Originally posted by Rover
                              A fair assessment Bob.

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                              • #120
                                Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

                                How do they plan to change this? Pay every teacher the same no matter where they teach? Force a teacher who could earn X at school Y to teach for .8X at school Z?

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