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  • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
    From a "bribery" standpoint, I don't think your two examples are identical.

    In the first you give the legislator $50,000. In exchange he agrees to vote how you want on a bill. That seems to be bribery and I would bet is against the law in most states.

    In your second example, you agree to pay the legislator/lawyer a $250,000 retainer to represent you. Accordingly, there is at least an inference from your example that you are getting something in return -- $250,000 of legal representation.

    If it could be proven that the lawyer did nothing for you for this "retainer", then I suspect a bribery charge could be made. However, if the lawyer did a substantial amount of legal work for you for which the $250,000 fee could be arguably justified, then I don't think there is any basis for a bribery charge.
    And depending on the state, the lawyer would not have access to the retainer anyway. Many (most, all?) states have curtailed or otherwise limited retainers in the oldest sense of the word, namely paying purely for the attorney's availability. The vast majority of modern "retainers" are simply advanced payments of fees and must be placed in the client trust account until such times as the fees are actually earned. The unearned portion remains refundable to the client.

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      Wow.

      http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...mate-death-row
      **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

      Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
      Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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      • Posner eviscerates same sex marriage bans in his opinion, out just a week after oral arguments.

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        • Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

          Originally posted by unofan View Post
          Posner eviscerates same sex marriage bans in his opinion, out just a week after oral arguments.
          Linky?
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          • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
            Linky?
            http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/cgi-bi...:N:1412339:S:0

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            • Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

              Thanks.

              The word that comes to mind is "wide-ranging." It's not just long, it's got everything but the kitchen sink in it.
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              • Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                Thanks.

                The word that comes to mind is "wide-ranging." It's not just long, it's got everything but the kitchen sink in it.
                Page 37, footnote 5.
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                Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                Originally posted by Kepler
                When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                • Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

                  WI AG to appeal to SCOTUS.

                  Let the Games begin...
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                  • Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

                    Sanity comes to another cray-cray state.

                    McPaper actually wrote a decent-sounding review of the cases which might go before SCOTUS. Not sure this particular Court wants to make the obvious ruling, though.
                    Last edited by Kepler; 09-23-2014, 11:06 AM.
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                    • Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

                      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      Mississippi is now blocking all roads exiting its western and southern borders.
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                      • Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

                        Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                        Mississippi is now blocking all roads exiting its western and southern borders.
                        And northern. TN, like AR, has a stayed ruling. 35 down, 15 to go. It's over.
                        Last edited by Kepler; 09-23-2014, 11:10 AM.
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                        • Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

                          McPaper. Hahaha. I've never heard that (probably widely used name) before.
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                          May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                          Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                          I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                          Originally posted by Kepler
                          When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                          He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                          • Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

                            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            Sanity comes to another cray-cray state.

                            McPaper actually wrote a decent-sounding review of the cases which might go before SCOTUS. Not sure this particular Court wants to make the obvious ruling, though.
                            Meh. Another stilted liberal article. Touting high profile lawyers as reprsenting the gay marriage advocates as a reason in favor of accepting a given case. I guess this passes for journalism these days. The liberal court will do what it will do.
                            Originally posted by Priceless
                            Good to see you're so reasonable.
                            Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                            Very well, said.
                            Originally posted by Rover
                            A fair assessment Bob.

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                              Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
                              Meh. Another stilted liberal article. Touting high profile lawyers as reprsenting the gay marriage advocates as a reason in favor of accepting a given case. I guess this passes for journalism these days. The liberal court will do what it will do.
                              Are you describing our current SC as liberal?

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                              • Originally posted by burd View Post
                                Are you describing our current SC as liberal?
                                I would describe it as "confused".
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