College Football Players---Students or Employees?

[LynahFan]

Re: College Football Players---Students or Employees?

i wonder if not-for-profit entities can have for-profit subsidiaries?

Have all the football players get reclassified as majoring in "professional sports developmental program" or some such thing, then have the football programs become the minor leagues. Minimal disruption of facilities, major tax headache though for the colleges.

I'd just say give up on the patina of academics entirely. Out here in SoCal, and I'm sure lots of other places, there are many corporate leagues (soccer, softball, beach volleyball, etc), where the nerds from Lockheed can really give the business to the dorks from Boeing. You could do the same thing among college employees, just with a slightly higher demand for tickets and TV rights. Just start up a new National Collegiate Corporate Football Association (NCCFA) to administer some basic eligibility rules (keep the 5 year eligibility, must be an employee of the university), and you're good to go. So long as you plow any "profits" back into the operation of the university, I don't see why you'd need to stand up a separate for-profit subsidiary. Universities are allowed to raise revenues in all sorts of ways - selling tickets, merchandise, and TV rights aren't that different from selling parking passes or charging library fines.

[RaceBoarder]

Re: College Football Players---Students or Employees?

Question for those who are looking for Medical Coverage for athletes:

How do we keep boosters from corrupting the crap out of the system... Something like "Oh you got a bruise during the National Title Game we won... Here's $50k/year for the next 10 years"... This just seems like a way to allow more garbage to go on at schools in the B1G, $EC, ect... Good on paper, but probably horrible in practice...

[joecct]

Re: College Football Players---Students or Employees?

Question for those who are looking for Medical Coverage for athletes:

How do we keep boosters from corrupting the crap out of the system... Something like "Oh you got a bruise during the National Title Game we won... Here's $50k/year for the next 10 years"... This just seems like a way to allow more garbage to go on at schools in the B1G, $EC, ect... Good on paper, but probably horrible in practice...

There is medical insurance for the SA until he / she graduates / leaves school. Then you're on parents' policy until you're 26.

What I believe the key is who pays for catastrophic injuries / rehab / long term care / loss of income when the SA leaves school? If the athlete is an employee, then the obligation falls to the employer. If he/she is a "student athlete" (a term invented by the NCAA to get out of the employer/employee relationship) then the onus is on the student.

You need to watch the movie "Schooled". It is interesting. Pro student, anti NCAA, but it does open ones eyes (and mind).

[Priceless]

Question for those who are looking for Medical Coverage for athletes:

How do we keep boosters from corrupting the crap out of the system... Something like "Oh you got a bruise during the National Title Game we won... Here's $50k/year for the next 10 years"... This just seems like a way to allow more garbage to go on at schools in the B1G, $EC, ect... Good on paper, but probably horrible in practice...

Why would that be any different from what happens presently? Why are boosters any more likely to get involved with health insurance?

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

Re: College Football Players---Students or Employees?

If these students don't have the money to eat, or do laundry, or go home....where do they get the money for all the tatoos they have?

[LynahFan]

Re: College Football Players---Students or Employees?

If these students don't have the money to eat, or do laundry, or go home....where do they get the money for all the tatoos they have?

You think those cost money? /wishIwerejoking

[St. Clown]

Re: College Football Players---Students or Employees?

Adrian Peterson has come out in favor of pay-for-play in college.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...should-be-paid

[WeAreNDHockey]

Re: College Football Players---Students or Employees?

Students or employees? I'd say they are closer to mercenaries than anything else, at least at all the BCS conferences (or whatever we're going to call them going forward) and even a few schools outside of the most successful conferences.

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

Re: College Football Players---Students or Employees?

Meet the SEC Bag Man

In other words....college student-athletes wanting to get paid is just them being greedy. Big surprise.

[duper]

Re: College Football Players---Students or Employees?

i wonder if not-for-profit entities can have for-profit subsidiaries?

Have all the football players get reclassified as majoring in "professional sports developmental program" or some such thing, then have the football programs become the minor leagues. Minimal disruption of facilities, major tax headache though for the colleges.

Well, I suppose that it could be like the NFL: the league is not-for-profit, but the franchises are for-profit.

[joecct]

Meet the SEC Bag Man

In other words....college student-athletes wanting to get paid is just them being greedy. Big surprise.

That was a fun read. I guess when the NCAA reads this, Sam Houston State's bowling team is going to get hammered.

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

Re: College Football Players---Students or Employees?

That was a fun read. I guess when the NCAA reads this, Sam Houston State's bowling team is going to get hammered.

I'm hoping they aim big and NDSU's football team takes the fall.

[bigmrg74]

Re: College Football Players---Students or Employees?

I'm hoping they aim big and NDSU's football team takes the fall.

From your lips to God's Ear!



Truthfully, that does make a whole lot of sense to me. There's plenty of alumni and other assorted rich fans who are pretty comfortable and could easily eat losing somewhere between $5,000 to $20,000 a year in their taxes and not have that hurt them too much. And hell, helping out the family with not really that flashy of things would be the way to go with it. It could easily happen at about any decent college football program out there.

[CLS]

Re: College Football Players---Students or Employees?

I sat near the Union rooting section, and there was one student aged person with a sign "Pay College Athletes". Seemed odd to me that it was a Union College supporter, a fan of the one of the four finalists that purports not to give what some people would refer to as "adequate compensation" now.

[Critical Thinker]

Re: College Football Players---Students or Employees?

On a related note, the NCAA recently adopted a measure that would allow for unlimited meals and snacks for student-athletes. Three quick thoughts:

1.- The only schools that can afford to do this are the ones that already have boosters paying their athletes
2.- "student-athletes" really just means football players
3.- No one is going hungry in college athletics. If a student-athlete doesn't have meal plan as part of their scholarship, this measure changes nothing; schools aren't going to magically have the funds all of a sudden.

Just another attempt by the NCAA to make it look like they care about student-athletes.