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  • #1276
    Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    It applies. It applies to your question. Neither the justification you proposed in your question nor the justification that was used pass the PBR test.


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    • #1277
      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      This is actually a great piece, even though it's -- gasp -- Kos.

      Could we at least have a bipartisan demand that Obama must ask Congress for the explicit right to fight ISIS and Congress must explicitly debate and vote on a resolution? Can we use this moment, where everybody gets their hands dirty and so nobody gets exclusive use of political advantage, to both put limits back on the executive and force the legislature to take up its responsibilities?

      That is what the Framers had in mind, after all.
      WHAT!! Congress to actually do something responsible? I think they confused that word with reprehensible.
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      • #1278
        Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

        Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
        Who's justifying the war? I'm genuinely curious if the grounds laid out for the war had been entirely different, would people still have been so vehemently against it. It was a bad war, a needless war.
        I can only speak for myself. The WMD argument was persuasive. I bought it. Then I found out they lied. That moved my bar up beyond WMD. Thus, I'm not in favor of the new ISIS war.
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        • #1279
          Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
          The typical usage is this: you can call a Senator a "Member of Congress" but never a Congressman. I kid thee not, they care about the difference.
          I don't doubt it. They can't do squat legislating, but they are picky about what they're called. Is Congressperson more acceptable?
          Originally posted by Priceless
          Good to see you're so reasonable.
          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
          Very well, said.
          Originally posted by Rover
          A fair assessment Bob.

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          • #1280
            Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
            This is actually a great piece, even though it's -- gasp -- Kos.

            Could we at least have a bipartisan demand that Obama must ask Congress for the explicit right to fight ISIS and Congress must explicitly debate and vote on a resolution? Can we use this moment, where everybody gets their hands dirty and so nobody gets exclusive use of political advantage, to both put limits back on the executive and force the legislature to take up its responsibilities?

            That is what the Framers had in mind, after all.
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            • #1281
              Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

              Remember that one guy back in high school? Yeah, that guy. Well, there's always that one guy.
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              • #1282
                Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                Could we at least have a bipartisan demand that Obama must ask Congress for the explicit right to fight ISIS and Congress must explicitly debate and vote on a resolution? Can we use this moment, where everybody gets their hands dirty and so nobody gets exclusive use of political advantage, to both put limits back on the executive and force the legislature to take up its responsibilities?

                That is what the Framers had in mind, after all.
                Hmm....before the US invaded Iraq, President Bush first had both Houses of Congress vote to approve it. That is a factual statement. You can look it up. The Senate vote was 77-23 and the House vote was 297 - 133.

                Yet you are not happy about that either. You'd think Congress would have conducted its own investigation to verify the facts before voting, no?

                So if we go to war with a vote, there is a problem, if we go to war without a vote there is a problem, yet if we are directly attacked and do nothing in response, that also is a problem.

                Do you ever propose solutions??
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                • #1283
                  Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
                  Do you ever propose solutions??
                  Hi pot. Meet kettle.

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                  • #1284
                    Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

                    Vietnam problem.

                    Train the locals to fight the bad guys. Locals fold and are corrupt. To stop the bad guys, you have to intervene. Morass ensues.

                    I hope we do not repeat the past.
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                    • #1285
                      Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

                      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      Beats the Carter Doctrine, anyway.

                      If we're going to exploit people and steal their oil, for god's sake let's make those people Canadian. It's closer, the women are prettier, they already speak English and they've got hockey.
                      You lost me precisely here.
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                      When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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                      • #1286
                        Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

                        Originally posted by joecct View Post
                        YAHOO! coerced? ?
                        http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...ml?tid=HP_lede
                        If I'm the execs at this company, I would have immediately come out to the press and said, "Try and imprison this company while you kindly go **** yourself."
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                        Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                        I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                        Originally posted by Kepler
                        When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                        He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                        • #1287
                          Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

                          Crap. #3

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                          • #1288
                            Lindsey Graham went all in this morning on Fox News Sunday. Never seen any Senator so angry and so anxious for war in my life.
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                            • #1289
                              Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

                              Turkey said "no thanks" to U.S. use of air bases, then the photo's come out where they gave free health care to an ISIS/ISIL leader. Most of the middle eastern countries contacted by POTUS were ambivalent at best to his plan and the responses reflected that. That means his "strategy" won't work and he'll need to revise/rethink/recalibrate...will he???

                              Given that, I can see why Graham would be ****ed as hell and ready to have the U.S. take this on alone. In a way I don't blame him, I mean how many **** beheadings and how many "Allāhu Akbar" shouts and prayers before/during massacres will the world take?

                              Where he's wrong is the U.S. (with or without our Canadian and British friends) should not go this alone. I believe we need Israel, Russia, China, Brazil, Germany, Argentina, Australia, Japan, and more to join in this war...
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                              • #1290
                                Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

                                Well of course he wants war...it isnt like he will be the one dying over there. These guys got no skin in the game its all a big game of Risk to them.

                                We need to not go to war period. Havent enough Americans died trying to fix an unfixable problem? This bloodlust some have to prove they are still young and verile by sending young men and women to die is disgusting.

                                But hey, if we are off killing all the dirty sand people, we dont have to pay attention to the fact that Rome is burning right? Its like none of these people took a history class..world or US.

                                No more War...I dont care who is president. Enough Americans have died and nothing we do will change any of this.
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