The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

[Old Pio]

Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

There was a B-17 doing flights over Happy Valley a couple of weeks ago. I could see a sky full of them over Germany.

My soft spot is the Spitfire, arguably the best fighter of WW 2. Hey what can I say, I'm from a Commonwealth nation!

What we frequently lose sight of is the enormous scale of WWII. As an example, we produced nearly 13,000 B-17s! That's a mind boggling number. And it's just for one type.

[solovsfett]

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I'm sure you guys have seen this? http://freebeacon.com/national-secur...ttacks-on-911/

Between that news, the bulletin that went out last week Friday that said ISIS may be (or is?) in Mexico (Juarez) and planning IED attacks via vehicles, and Homeland Security stating the "chatter" is up significantly...to pre-9/11 levels evidently...I have to admit I'm unnerved by the seeming lack of a coherent response (or should I say plan) from the Admin and Congress.

People have been asking "what would YOU do?" on here...If the Mossad wasn't already busy with their own problems I'd love the admin to have them work w/DEVGRU, the CIA, MI5, and similar operators in France, Germany, Canada and (gasp) China and Russia (hell, ask Brazil as well...) this is a WORLD problem, and we're ALL apostates or infidels to these guys unless we submit so let's treat it like the world problem it is and get the prominent players around the globe to burn ISIS and similar groups to the ground, vacuum the ashes and shoot them into outer space. Where to start, DEVGRU and the CIA (maybe the Mossad if they've got time and space) can take aim at the leaders of these groups. Hunt them, pick them off as they're found and don't stop hunting until there are no ISIS/AQ/Hezbollah groups alive in any capacity.

But that's not the only answer...there must be more...MUCH more. For one, Imam's who preach hate and Jihad must be imprisoned, period. From Britain to the U.S. to Syria or wherever they preach, if they're encouraging jihad they've got to go away.

[dxmnkd316]

Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

You had me until that last paragraph.

[solovsfett]

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You had me until that last paragraph.

that's fine. What would you suggest though? Aren't there a lot of IMAM's preaching hate and jihad? Isn't that how many are radicalized in Western countries? How would you counteract that? It would seem they'd be fostering new groups of potential terrorists ad infinitum if we don't find a way to stop them from preaching hate

[dxmnkd316]

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Well, there's that pesky first amendment that kind of prevents us from locking people up because they preach a specific brand of hate we don't appreciate.

So, I would do nothing on that specific front.

[solovsfett]

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Well, there's that pesky first amendment that kind of prevents us from locking people up because they preach a specific brand of hate we don't appreciate.

So, I would do nothing on that specific front.

fair enough

[Old Pio]

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Well, there's that pesky first amendment that kind of prevents us from locking people up because they preach a specific brand of hate we don't appreciate.

So, I would do nothing on that specific front.

We should immediately invalidate the passports of Americans who join ISIS. As to domestic terrorists, the First Amendment protects their right to preach their insanity. It doesn't protect a "right" to advocate, plan or prepare for criminality.

Notwithstanding the manifest fecklessness of the Obama administration, I'm optimistic the adults in the CIA, the hated NSA and other agencies are working hard to protect us from these animals.

[dxmnkd316]

We should immediately invalidate the passports of Americans who join ISIS. As to domestic terrorists, the First Amendment protects their right to preach their insanity. It doesn't protect a "right" to advocate, plan or prepare for criminality.

Notwithstanding the manifest fecklessness of the Obama administration, I'm optimistic the adults in the CIA, the hated NSA and other agencies are working hard to protect us from these animals.

What's the process of passport invalidation? Do you have to be convicted of something? Or is this effectively a treason trial?

[burd]

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We should immediately invalidate the passports of Americans who join ISIS. As to domestic terrorists, the First Amendment protects their right to preach their insanity. It doesn't protect a "right" to advocate, plan or prepare for criminality.

Notwithstanding the manifest fecklessness of the Obama administration, I'm optimistic the adults in the CIA, the hated NSA and other agencies are working hard to protect us from these animals.

Depends what you mean by advocating criminality. Making public statements that ISIL should behead all western colonialists would be protected if it was not found to promote imminent lawless action.

With the fear of Islamic terrorism, it really is interesting to compare present first amendment questions to the sedition cases in world war one, when anarchists and Bolsheviks were advocating an ill fate for our soldiers fighting the Germans on the eastern front.

[joecct]

Well, there's that pesky first amendment that kind of prevents us from locking people up because they preach a specific brand of hate we don't appreciate.

So, I would do nothing on that specific front.

That did not stop Woodrow Wilson. Nor did it give Abraham Lincoln pause; either.

[Handyman]

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that's fine. What would you suggest though? Aren't there a lot of IMAM's preaching hate and jihad? Isn't that how many are radicalized in Western countries? How would you counteract that? It would seem they'd be fostering new groups of potential terrorists ad infinitum if we don't find a way to stop them from preaching hate

So if say, they were American citizens you would violate their right to free speech because you dont like what they say? How very McCarthy of you! Have you ever actually read the Constitution?

But hey, I m sure Obama doesnt like the crap internet tough guys like Sicatoka say about him so can he imprison them for it? Hell can he nuke North Dakota back to the stone age many of the residents already look like they belong there

It is amazing to me the lengths people will go to violate the very rights they supposedly hold so dear. Kill innocent victims and arrest those that disagree with you...strong Republican ideals I guess. Talk about republican in name only...

[solovsfett]

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So if say, they were American citizens you would violate their right to free speech because you dont like what they say? How very McCarthy of you! Have you ever actually read the Constitution?

But hey, I m sure Obama doesnt like the crap internet tough guys like Sicatoka say about him so can he imprison them for it? Hell can he nuke North Dakota back to the stone age many of the residents already look like they belong there

It is amazing to me the lengths people will go to violate the very rights they supposedly hold so dear. Kill innocent victims and arrest those that disagree with you...strong Republican ideals I guess. Talk about republican in name only...

I own a copy of the Declaration, the Constitution and The Articles. I've read them numerous times and try to re-read them annually.

By your third paragraph you infer you know something about me or my mindset which you do not. You don't know if I'm republican or democrat or lean toward neither or toward a mix of both. Who said anything about killing innocent victims? Me? I'm afraid you won't find that anywhere on the internet or in my head (if you have jedi mind**** powers).

So calm down and try to have a logical debate here.

The Imam's who incite violence and murder, Jihad etc., they must be dealt with. Instead of popping off and putting words into my mouth why don't you respond with what should be done about this problem. And it is a very real problem. So what's your solution to the problem of Imam's inciting violence and murder?

[Old Pio]

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I own a copy of the Declaration, the Constitution and The Articles. I've read them numerous times and try to re-read them annually.

By your third paragraph you infer you know something about me or my mindset which you do not. You don't know if I'm republican or democrat or lean toward neither or toward a mix of both. Who said anything about killing innocent victims? Me? I'm afraid you won't find that anywhere on the internet or in my head (if you have jedi mind**** powers).

So calm down and try to have a logical debate here.

The Imam's who incite violence and murder, Jihad etc., they must be dealt with. Instead of popping off and putting words into my mouth why don't you respond with what should be done about this problem. And it is a very real problem. So what's your solution to the problem of Imam's inciting violence and murder?

Nah. It's much easier to pontificate, especially if it affords an opportunity to drop the name "McCarthy" into the conversation. Those who scream the loudest about protecting the free speech rights of jihadists ironically find themselves advocating curtailment of those same rights in others with whom they disagree. Campus "speech codes" would be a good example of the phenomenon. In fact, the whole creaking pc edifice on many college campuses shows American liberals are constantly vigilant against the depredations of college guys (especially the ones in fraternities) but not so much for jihadists. Phony campus rape "crises" occupy their time while actual sexual outrages in the Muslim world hardly merit their attention. We'll be able to sort out the blowhards from the criminals when it comes to Muslim extremists, protecting the First Amendment rights of the former while jacking the latter into prison.

[solovsfett]

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Nah. It's much easier to pontificate, especially if it affords an opportunity to drop the name "McCarthy" into the conversation. Those who scream the loudest about protecting the free speech rights of jihadists ironically find themselves advocating curtailment of those same rights in others with whom they disagree. Campus "speech codes" would be a good example of the phenomenon. In fact, the whole creaking pc edifice on many college campuses shows American liberals are constantly vigilant against the depredations of college guys (especially the ones in fraternities) but not so much for jihadists. Phony campus rape "crises" occupy their time while actual sexual outrages in the Muslim world hardly merit their attention. We'll be able to sort out the blowhards from the criminals when it comes to Muslim extremists, protecting the First Amendment rights of the former while jacking the latter into prison.

well put!

[5mn_Major]

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What I AM in favor of is for President Feckless to grow a pair, stop trying to be a community organizer and act like the President of the United States and the "Leader of the Free World."

Hey what can I say, I'm from a Commonwealth nation!

Soo...lemme get this straight. You're arguably the most baselessly critical poster on how we're doing our business. And you're NOT even American?

Funny how we don't hear about you hyperventilating over your inability to solve your own problems.