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  • Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

    Originally posted by Old Pio View Post
    In the 80's an L1011 bellyflopped into DFW because of wind shear. That very night Caesar Belli (son of Melvin) flew in from San Francisco and checked into the hotel where victims' families were staying. The answer to your question is an enthusiastic yes.
    You really need to start adding Wikipedia links to your posts.

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    • Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

      Originally posted by French Rage View Post
      You really need to start adding Wikipedia links to your posts.
      I guess you're right. That one is a vivid memory given that I was in Texas at the time and didn't have to look it up.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Air_Lines_Flight_191
      Last edited by Old Pio; 07-22-2014, 11:01 PM.
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      • Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

        Originally posted by joecct View Post
        Except, IIRC, the Christian swastika tilted the other way.
        Although early Nazi versions did, too. And I believe the hakenkreuz pre dates Christianity even
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        • Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

          Originally posted by Old Pio View Post
          I guess you're right. That one is a vivid memory given that I was in Texas at the time and didn't have to look it up.
          I had to really rack my brains to remember Melvin Belli. He was the ambulance chaser who would raise a pirate flag and fire a fucking cannon when he won his cases.
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          • Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
            I had to really rack my brains to remember Melvin Belli. He was the ambulance chaser who would raise a pirate flag and fire a fucking cannon when he won his cases.

            He represented the survivors in Bhopal, India who were killed by MIC gas. At one point he claimed his clients should be compensated at the same rate they would have been if they'd been Americans. 'Course these were people making 40 bucks a month and living in horrific squalor. And a ten or 20 thousand dollar settlement would have been life altering. But for Melvin? Not so much.
            Last edited by Old Pio; 07-22-2014, 11:09 PM.
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            • Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

              More planes are falling out of the skies, it seems.

              Ukrainean fighter jets shot down -> http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/23/world/...html?hpt=hp_t1
              Probably fits in the category of the "terror" thread

              Plane crashes in Taiwan -> http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/23/world/...ash/index.html
              Probably not "terror" related, but didn't know where else to put it.
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              • Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

                Originally posted by Old Pio View Post
                Hitler, in fact, grew up "intoxicated" with the pageantry of the church. The cathedral in his hometown was decorated with swastikas. And you could make a good case that the SS and Society of Jesus fulfilled similar functions. That doesn't necessarily make him a good Catholic, any more than Al Capone was a good Catholic by going to Mass on Sundays. But there's no question whatsoever that National Socialism's public manifestations were influenced to a significant extent by the Church.
                Huh? Did Priceless coopt OP's username and password or something? Not buying it. There was a time in Hitler's youth that he was quite interested in the church and toyed with the idea of going into the clergy, but that's when he was quite young and that faded rather quickly, never to come back. Maybe you're referring to some of the sham church stuff the Nazis did, while doing away with the folks like Boenhoeffer who followed Christian teaching and opposed the Nazis.

                Here's a sample of some quotes from the wiki on religion in Nazi Germany:
                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Nazi_Germany
                "Nazis, who left the churches in response and encouragement of the Nazi Party program to reduce the influence of the Christian churches in Germany"

                "The Nazi Fuehrer Adolf Hitler stated repeatedly Nazism was founded on science not faith."

                "Anti-Church radicals included Hitler's militant atheist Deputy Martin Bormann and Minister for Propaganda Joseph Goebbels, the neo-pagan official Nazi Philosopher Alfred Rosenberg and security chief Heinrich Himmler."

                "It is generally believed by historians that Hitler and the Nazis intended to eradicate Christianity in Germany after winning victory in the war."

                "During Hitler's dictatorship, more than 6,000 clergymen, on the charge of treasonable activity, were imprisoned or executed."

                "Christianity remained the dominant religion in Germany through the Nazi period, and its influence over Germans displeased the Nazi hierarchy. Evans wrote that Hitler believed that in the long run National Socialism and religion would not be able to co-exist, and stressed repeatedly that Nazism was a secular ideology, founded on modern science: "Science, he declared, would easily destroy the last remaining vestiges of superstition". Germany could not tolerate the intervention of foreign influences such as the Pope and "Priests, he said, were 'black bugs', 'abortions in black cassocks'" "

                "Writing for Yad Vashem, the historian Michael Phayer wrote that by the latter 1930s, church officials knew that the long term aim of Hitler was the "total elimination of Catholicism and of the Christian religion", but that given the prominence of Christianity in Germany, this was necessarily a long term goal.[63] According to Bullock, Hitler intended to destroy the influence of the Christian churches in Germany after the war.[64] In his memoirs, Hitler's chief architect Albert Speer recalled that when drafting his plans for the "new Berlin", he consulted Protestant and Catholic authorities, but was "curtly informed" by Hitler's private secretary Martin Bormann that churches were not to receive building sites.[65] Kershaw wrote that, in Hitler's scheme for the Germanization of Eastern Europe, he made clear that there would be "no place in this utopia for the Christian Churches'."

                And on and on . . . . . .
                Originally posted by Priceless
                Good to see you're so reasonable.
                Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                Very well, said.
                Originally posted by Rover
                A fair assessment Bob.

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                • Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
                  Huh? Did Priceless coopt OP's username and password or something? Not buying it. There was a time in Hitler's youth that he was quite interested in the church and toyed with the idea of going into the clergy, but that's when he was quite young and that faded rather quickly, never to come back. Maybe you're referring to some of the sham church stuff the Nazis did, while doing away with the folks like Boenhoeffer who followed Christian teaching and opposed the Nazis.

                  Here's a sample of some quotes from the wiki on religion in Nazi Germany:
                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Nazi_Germany
                  "Nazis, who left the churches in response and encouragement of the Nazi Party program to reduce the influence of the Christian churches in Germany"

                  "The Nazi Fuehrer Adolf Hitler stated repeatedly Nazism was founded on science not faith."

                  "Anti-Church radicals included Hitler's militant atheist Deputy Martin Bormann and Minister for Propaganda Joseph Goebbels, the neo-pagan official Nazi Philosopher Alfred Rosenberg and security chief Heinrich Himmler."

                  "It is generally believed by historians that Hitler and the Nazis intended to eradicate Christianity in Germany after winning victory in the war."

                  "During Hitler's dictatorship, more than 6,000 clergymen, on the charge of treasonable activity, were imprisoned or executed."

                  "Christianity remained the dominant religion in Germany through the Nazi period, and its influence over Germans displeased the Nazi hierarchy. Evans wrote that Hitler believed that in the long run National Socialism and religion would not be able to co-exist, and stressed repeatedly that Nazism was a secular ideology, founded on modern science: "Science, he declared, would easily destroy the last remaining vestiges of superstition". Germany could not tolerate the intervention of foreign influences such as the Pope and "Priests, he said, were 'black bugs', 'abortions in black cassocks'" "

                  "Writing for Yad Vashem, the historian Michael Phayer wrote that by the latter 1930s, church officials knew that the long term aim of Hitler was the "total elimination of Catholicism and of the Christian religion", but that given the prominence of Christianity in Germany, this was necessarily a long term goal.[63] According to Bullock, Hitler intended to destroy the influence of the Christian churches in Germany after the war.[64] In his memoirs, Hitler's chief architect Albert Speer recalled that when drafting his plans for the "new Berlin", he consulted Protestant and Catholic authorities, but was "curtly informed" by Hitler's private secretary Martin Bormann that churches were not to receive building sites.[65] Kershaw wrote that, in Hitler's scheme for the Germanization of Eastern Europe, he made clear that there would be "no place in this utopia for the Christian Churches'."

                  And on and on . . . . . .
                  As any college student from 2005 on knows, never cite Wikipedia as a source.
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                  Originally posted by UAFIceAngel
                  But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
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                  • Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

                    Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
                    As any college student from 2005 on knows, never cite Wikipedia as a source.
                    He's posting on an internet message board, not writing a term paper.
                    Having a clear conscience just means you have a bad memory or you had a boring weekend.

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                    • Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

                      Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
                      As any college student from 2005 on knows, never cite Wikipedia as a source.
                      I don't fall into that category!

                      Do you disagree with my premise?
                      Originally posted by Priceless
                      Good to see you're so reasonable.
                      Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                      Very well, said.
                      Originally posted by Rover
                      A fair assessment Bob.

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                      • Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
                        I don't fall into that category!

                        Do you disagree with my premise?
                        No, I'm just saying you should use a better source to prove the point.
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                        Applejack Tells You How UAA Is Doing...
                        I spell Failure with UAF

                        Originally posted by UAFIceAngel
                        But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
                        Originally posted by Doyle Woody
                        Best sign by a visting Seawolf fan Friday went to a young man who held up a piece of white poster board that read: "YOU CAN'T SPELL FAILURE WITHOUT UAF."

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                        • Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

                          Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
                          No, I'm just saying you should use a better source to prove the point.
                          I understand what you're saying, but this one is such a no brainer I didn't bother putting much effort into it. Not to mention that few people around here even bother to cite wiki, let alone a better source. Like Pio's posting that has no sources (that you didn't raise an issue with) or Priceless' ramblings that rarely cite anything.
                          Originally posted by Priceless
                          Good to see you're so reasonable.
                          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                          Very well, said.
                          Originally posted by Rover
                          A fair assessment Bob.

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                          • Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
                            I understand what you're saying, but this one is such a no brainer I didn't bother putting much effort into it. Not to mention that few people around here even bother to cite wiki, let alone a better source. Like Pio's posting that has no sources (that you didn't raise an issue with) or Priceless' ramblings that rarely cite anything.
                            I didn't say anything because I never really pay any attention to OP or Priceless' ramblings.
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                            Applejack Tells You How UAA Is Doing...
                            I spell Failure with UAF

                            Originally posted by UAFIceAngel
                            But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
                            Originally posted by Doyle Woody
                            Best sign by a visting Seawolf fan Friday went to a young man who held up a piece of white poster board that read: "YOU CAN'T SPELL FAILURE WITHOUT UAF."

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                            • Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

                              Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
                              I didn't say anything because I never really pay any attention to OP or Priceless' ramblings.
                              You got me there!
                              Originally posted by Priceless
                              Good to see you're so reasonable.
                              Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                              Very well, said.
                              Originally posted by Rover
                              A fair assessment Bob.

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                              • Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
                                You got me there!
                                Jimjamesak's two keys to happy posting:

                                1. Ignore the ramblers
                                2. Post ponies.
                                U-A-A!!!Go!Go!GreenandGold!
                                Applejack Tells You How UAA Is Doing...
                                I spell Failure with UAF

                                Originally posted by UAFIceAngel
                                But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
                                Originally posted by Doyle Woody
                                Best sign by a visting Seawolf fan Friday went to a young man who held up a piece of white poster board that read: "YOU CAN'T SPELL FAILURE WITHOUT UAF."

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