The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

[SteveP]

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I miss the MSNBC of 10 - 15 years ago though.

You're not the only one. In fact, years ago I wanted to work there.

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AJ is great for everything except Israel (AJ on Israel is like watching FNC on Obama -- they're not even trying to hide it) and Qatar (obviously, since AJ is an arm of the Qatar royal family).

AJA sucks, though -- it's dumbed down to the point where you think you're watching CNN or one of the networks.

I don't have alternatives for general world news. I don't have BBC and not sure if Headline News is even still in business.

AJ is on during Skillet's show - which I can't stand.

[SteveP]

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Difference between Stewart & Colbert and O'Reilly & Hannity is that two of them are on Comedy Central while the other two are on a "News" channel.

But how many younger viewers get their "news" and opinion/commentary from Stewart & Colbert? Probably a lot more than those getting the same from FNCCNNMSNBCABCCBSNBC

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The unfortunate part about MSNBC is that they used to actually try and only lean left instead of what they have become.

I remember when Matthews used to skewer Dems as gleefully as he does GOPs. Scarborough had a show in prime time. The dude with the bow tie had a show. Pat Buchannan used to be on quite a bit.

Then they saw that they really had no niche and decided to fill the void as an unapologetic voice for the left.

Can't blame them as survival and being profitable is important.

I miss the MSNBC of 10 - 15 years ago though.

[Kepler]

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I've actually taken to watching Al Jazeera for world news...

W T F?

AJ is great for everything except Israel (AJ on Israel is like watching FNC on Obama -- they're not even trying to hide it) and Qatar (obviously, since AJ is an arm of the Qatar royal family).

AJA sucks, though -- it's dumbed down to the point where you think you're watching CNN or one of the networks.

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I've actually taken to watching Al Jazeera for world news...

W T F?

[Kepler]

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Sure, FNC leans to the right, but you have to admit that there are more left-leaning commentators (Carville, Bechel, Combes, Powers and Greta come immediately to mind) than on MSNBC, which has simply fallen off the left side of the cliff and has zero credibility as "news" network.

Not sure if serious.

Are you saying you think FNC is a news source with a slant? It is very clear to me that Fox News, on political issues, has no "news" element at all. It is a propaganda arm for the GOP, which it was explicitly designed to be by Roger Ailes. That's not a slant -- it's the actual mission statement. MSNBC is its mirror image for the Dems.

Understandably, people like to hear their opinions validated, so Fox and MSNBC each have legions of viewers who like to marinate in their own juices. All fine and dandy -- what else is reading a site like Kos or Red State than that same self-indulgence? But it isn't "news." News is the coverage of an event. What Fox and MSNBC do is use events as a pretext to reiterate a pre-set opinion.

This isn't a matter of degree but of kind -- it's the whole distinction between the news stories and the editorial pieces in a newspaper.

[FreshFish]

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True, though 89% of the liberal elite in this country reads the NYTimes 24/7 attack columns and thinks it's "news."

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Difference between Stewart & Colbert and O'Reilly & Hannity is that two of them are on Comedy Central while the other two are on a "News" channel.

An apt comparison is Faux and MSNBC. They are yin and yang.

And you have to be kidding if you think Faux isn't as far to the right as MSNBC is to the left.

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Sure, FNC leans to the right, but you have to admit that there are more left-leaning commentators (Carville, Bechel, Combes, Powers and Greta come immediately to mind) than on MSNBC, which has simply fallen off the left side of the cliff and has zero credibility as "news" network.

Seriously?

LOL

[SteveP]

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I doubt you have illusions about FNC's orientation. I sometimes listen to the Pacifica Network, but I'm under no illusions that I'm getting anything other than an informercial for one side.

Sure, FNC leans to the right, but you have to admit that there are more left-leaning commentators (Carville, Bechel, Combes, Powers and Greta come immediately to mind) than on MSNBC, which has simply fallen off the left side of the cliff and has zero credibility as "news" network.

[Kepler]

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You'd be surprised how many of us "old" FNC-luvin' conservatives also watch TDS on a regular basis -- and get it.

I doubt you have illusions about FNC's orientation. I sometimes listen to the Pacifica Network, but I'm under no illusions that I'm getting anything other than an informercial for one side.

[SteveP]

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True, though 29% of the country listens to the Fox 24/7 attack ad and thinks it's "news."

Granted -- not one of those people is ever going to see TDS, and even if they did it would be way over their heads.

You'd be surprised how many of us "old" FNC-luvin' conservatives also watch TDS on a regular basis -- and get it. Most nights I laugh my arse off at Stewart. His writers are good at skewering both sides. Other nights I want to reach through the TV and strangle the SOB.

I suppose that's how "the ladies of the chorale" (to borrow a phrase ) feel most nights about the likes of Hannity & O'Reilly.

[Kepler]

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Meh. Soft targets.

True, though 29% of the country listens to the Fox 24/7 attack ad and thinks it's "news."

Granted -- not one of those people is ever going to see TDS, and even if they did it would be way over their heads.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Meh. Soft targets.