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  • #1711
    Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

    Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
    Yes, that's one case where of course everything is 100 percent one person's fault, as we'll probably hear for the rest of our lifetimes and beyond if possible.
    Except all the times that empty charge has been disproven again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again.

    But keep at it. Heck, people still believe trickle down -- you've got a shot.
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    • #1712
      Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

      Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
      Too bad the other posters aren't uncritically accepting my loaded talking point but easily refuting it, as usual.
      Your post. Fixed it have I.
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      • #1713
        Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        Except all the times that empty charge has been disproven again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again.

        But keep at it. Heck, people still believe trickle down -- you've got a shot.
        People who a charge is leveled against typically don't think it's legit. But, hey, why not keep whining about Bush. It's a good try to distract from Obama's continued poor performance.
        Originally posted by Priceless
        Good to see you're so reasonable.
        Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
        Very well, said.
        Originally posted by Rover
        A fair assessment Bob.

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        • #1714
          Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

          Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
          People who a charge is leveled against typically don't think it's legit. But, hey, why not keep whining about Bush. It's a good try to distract from Obama's continued poor performance.
          Kepler: I like pie.

          Bob: Yeah, just keep whining about Bush!

          World: lolwut?
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          • #1715
            Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
            Your post. Fixed it have I.
            No refutations I see, though burd is calmly discussing, unlike your troll friends. Not sure why you constantly carry water for them.
            Originally posted by Priceless
            Good to see you're so reasonable.
            Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
            Very well, said.
            Originally posted by Rover
            A fair assessment Bob.

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            • #1716
              Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              Kepler: I like pie.

              Bob: Yeah, just keep whining about Bush!

              World: lolwut?
              Glad you like pie. So do I. Pumpkin in particular. I now prepare for people to moan about pumpkins.
              Originally posted by Priceless
              Good to see you're so reasonable.
              Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
              Very well, said.
              Originally posted by Rover
              A fair assessment Bob.

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              • #1717
                Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

                Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
                No refutations I see, though burd is calmly discussing, unlike your troll friends. Not sure why you constantly carry water for them.
                I was referring to my take down of your argument, which you have not responded to presumably since it does not fit your narrative.

                I know, I know, I'm just whining about Bush...
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                • #1718
                  Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

                  Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
                  Glad you like pie. So do I. Pumpkin in particular. I now prepare for people to moan about pumpkins.
                  Weird thing about pumpkin pie. I hate the smell of pumpkins (don't ask, some deep-seated Halloween anxiety or something, I dunno either) and I have assiduously avoided pumpkin pie all these years because of it. But I just had pumpkin pie for the first time last year and I LOVE it! It doesn't taste anything like pumpkin smells at all. On the scent/taste dichotomy scale it has to be second only to vanilla extract.
                  Last edited by Kepler; 10-03-2014, 12:43 PM.
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                  • #1719
                    Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

                    Originally posted by joecct View Post
                    Stay on the sidelines. If we feel it is in the national interest to get involved, do so by proxy.
                    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    Hear, hear. I second this as a bipartisan solution.
                    Add me to this contingent. The whole Middle East (our "allies" included) is once huge ****sandwich that the US needs to get away from.
                    My Four Favorite teams:
                    RIT and anyone who is beating Canisius
                    Cornell and anyone who is beating Harvard

                    If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. - James Madison

                    I am not afraid of terrorism, and I want the Government to stop being afraid on my behalf. I understand that it will not be possible to stop all terrorist acts. I am not afraid!!!!

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                    • #1720
                      Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

                      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      I was referring to my take down of your argument, which you have not responded to presumably since it does not fit your narrative.

                      I know, I know, I'm just whining about Bush...
                      You're simply claiming the charge has been disproven over and over again? Sorry, that's not a take down. That's just saying you disagree.

                      Again, you're better than to carry water for the trolls around here, even if they agree with your liberal leanings.
                      Originally posted by Priceless
                      Good to see you're so reasonable.
                      Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                      Very well, said.
                      Originally posted by Rover
                      A fair assessment Bob.

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                      • #1721
                        Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
                        You're simply claiming the charge has been disproven over and over again? Sorry, that's not a take down. That's just saying you disagree.

                        Again, you're better than to carry water for the trolls around here, even if they agree with your liberal leanings.
                        Because you've conveniently ignored his and my posts refuting your premise. And I know you saw mine even though I'm on ignore because someone else quoted it.

                        Two legitimate responses, but you're right. None have responded to you seriously.

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                        • #1722
                          Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

                          Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
                          I didn't say that we had turned allies into enemies, but that our relationships with traditional allies in the region have been undermined. The two most obvious are Israel, which I had already mentioned, and Saudi Arabia.
                          You sound like this is a bad thing? I think it is a great thing. Israel needs to learn to stand by itself with the US holding it's hand all the time. And SA is just a bad country that is doing a horrible job of paying us lip service while really supporting hard line Islamics. (read: enemies of the US)
                          My Four Favorite teams:
                          RIT and anyone who is beating Canisius
                          Cornell and anyone who is beating Harvard

                          If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. - James Madison

                          I am not afraid of terrorism, and I want the Government to stop being afraid on my behalf. I understand that it will not be possible to stop all terrorist acts. I am not afraid!!!!

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                          • #1723
                            Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

                            Originally posted by MattS View Post
                            Add me to this contingent. The whole Middle East (our "allies" included) is once huge ****sandwich that the US needs to get away from.
                            I think we've now got Far Left, Center-Left, Center, Center-Right. Far Right, anyone? Pio? Bob? (Bob is somewhere between Center-Right and Far Right but I guess he counts.)
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                            • #1724
                              Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

                              Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
                              Again, you're better than to carry water for the trolls around here, even if they agree with your liberal leanings.
                              Yeah that sounds so like me...
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                              • #1725
                                Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

                                Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
                                You're simply claiming the charge has been disproven over and over again? Sorry, that's not a take down. That's just saying you disagree.
                                That's fair. There is no other way to engage with your statement because (1) it has so many hidden premises, and (2) it's not a logically-checkable statement.
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