The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

[joecct]

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[burd]

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In one breath Bush is "the worst president ever (with apologies to the giant from Plains)" in the next he sets the standard against which you favorably compare General der Panzertruppe von Manteuffel (from Chicago). Wish you'd make up your mind.

The point you insist on ignoring time after time, Pio, is that Bush left us with a runaway train wreck, both financially and geopolitically, and even Barry Goldwater would have struggled to get it back pointed in the right direction moving forward instead of backwards. So when the crying Nancies go on about a skinned knee, some of us wonder if they were napping when they almost lost a leg.

[Kepler]

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Draft the South, give it Ebola, and send it to Syria.

BTW, this is apparently a real thing. I am so getting it.

[ScoobyDoo]

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The point you insist on ignoring time after time, Pio, is that Bush left us with a runaway train wreck, both financially and geopolitically, and even Barry Goldwater would have struggled to get it back pointed in the right direction moving forward instead of backwards. So when the crying Nancies go on about a skinned knee, some of us wonder if they were napping when they almost lost a leg.

This. Well put.

[joecct]

Draft the South, give it Ebola, and send it to Syria.

BTW, this is apparently a real thing. I am so getting it.

Some believe Deliverance is a love story.

[Old Pio]

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The point you insist on ignoring time after time, Pio, is that Bush left us with a runaway train wreck, both financially and geopolitically, and even Barry Goldwater would have struggled to get it back pointed in the right direction moving forward instead of backwards. So when the crying Nancies go on about a skinned knee, some of us wonder if they were napping when they almost lost a leg.

When does Obama become responsible?

[Kepler]

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Some believe Deliverance is a love story.

Well, he did have a purdy mouth.

[St. Clown]

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When does Obama become responsible?

Once Sir Hilary Rodham Clinton takes office.

[ScoobyDoo]

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When does Obama become responsible?

He's responsible for falling for this ISIS BS and going to war again. Afghanistan, Iraq, and the overall instability of the ENTIRE Middle East is on Bush.

[Kepler]

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Once Sir Hilary Rodham Clinton takes office.

That's a low blow. "Hillary" has two l's.

[dxmnkd316]

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"Local Dallas man attempts to take on both ISIS and Ebola at the same time. Who emerges victorious? Lead story at 10."

[ScoobyDoo]

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Rep. Paul Ryan doubts President Barack Obama will be able to maintain his promise that there will be no American boots on the ground in the fight against ISIS.

"I'm supportive of what the President has done going into Syria and Iraq, but you have to see this thing through," the Wisconsin Republican said Tuesday on CNN's "Erin Burnett OutFront."

He says we need boots on the ground. I say we don't even need planes in the air. If Obama caves to these clowns and puts boots on the ground he will have failed even more than he already has in so many ways.

http://outfront.blogs.cnn.com/2014/0...ots-on-ground/

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He says we need boots on the ground. I say we don't even need planes in the air. If Obama caves to these clowns and puts boots on the ground he will have failed even more than he already has in so many ways.

http://outfront.blogs.cnn.com/2014/0...ots-on-ground/

So as soon as he does send in the troops, it's probably safe to assume that Ryan will change his narrative to, "Obama said no boots on the ground! LIAR!"

[burd]

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When does Obama become responsible?

He becomes responsible the minute he steps into office. But the more important question is what he is responsible for. To me, he and every other president or chairman is responsible for the extent to which his policies made a situation worse under circumstances when it should have been made better. Or for the extent to which his policies made a situation better which ought to have been made much better.

You pointed out a while ago that Nixon should not be held responsible for our presence in Vietnam, and you were right. It was an unholy mess when he took over, and he was not going to magically change that.

Clinton took over with a deficit and left with a surplus, but his policies also contributed to the lending offenses that were a big part of the economic collapse, so Bush should not be held solely responsible for the financial disaster he left us with either. To be sure, he made it worse, and the continual right wing chorus of keeping government out of business led to serious lack of oversight of the banking industry (my under educated and uninformed opinion). But we liberals deserve criticism for laying it all on Bush.

So Obama definitely deserves to be held accountable for that part of the economic problem that reasonably should have been resolved or improved by now. A while ago, I posted a question asking posters to identify who would have guided us to a better situation with the economy and with what policies. No answer. Our coping mechanism for dealing with the size and complexity of fiscal policy issues is to just dig in and wallow in the most simplistic and useless generalizations. I do it.

Something like Iraq? Bush's baby, no doubt, though most politicians were just too chicken to let wisdom prevail over overheated and much abused appeal to patriotism. Whoever inherited the mess Bush left in Iraq was going to have to deal with the kinds of problems Cheney warned about. If Obama fails to apply policies to improve the situation or gets us in a worse situation when another policy could foreseeably have avoided that, it's on him.

Short answer, though? Never.

[Kepler]

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Since when is responsibility mutually exclusive? Republicans bear complete responsibility for just one thing: torture. Democrats ended that. But all the other foolish and dangerous errors of the permanent surveillance and warfare state have been extended by Democrats. Some, like drone policy, have been made even worse.