World Soccer XXV - the run up to the World Cup

[Jimjamesak]

Re: World Soccer XXV - the run up to the World Cup

I'm so glad Klinsmann is calling in these guys from the benches and youth teams of Europe to play like * in a USA jersey.

[jmh]

Re: World Soccer XXV - the run up to the World Cup

I'm so glad Klinsmann is calling in these guys from the benches and youth teams of Europe to play like * in a USA jersey.

Weren't you complaining last week that he called in Yedlin during the MLS playoffs?

[Jimjamesak]

Weren't you complaining last week that he called in Yedlin during the MLS playoffs?

Yes, but there are players not in the playoffs that could be playing.

[jmh]

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Yes, but there are players not in the playoffs that could be playing.

Woohoo, Bill Hamid!

[Jimjamesak]

Woohoo, Bill Hamid!

Not Bill Hamid. More like Trapp and Gil.

[jmh]

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Not Bill Hamid. More like Trapp and Gil.

Sure, but do you schlep them over to Europe for a friendly to play instead of Diskerud who's already based there anyway? Why? Or I guess maybe instead of Beckerman, who I assume must have pictures of Klinsmann in a compromising situation, but that doesn't really go to your point about MLS players vs. Europe-based players. Or did you mean instead of Bedoya or Morales? Both of them play regularly for their clubs too, as does Rubin.

[Jimjamesak]

Sure, but do you schlep them over to Europe for a friendly to play instead of Diskerud who's already based there anyway? Why? Or I guess maybe instead of Beckerman, who I assume must have pictures of Klinsmann in a compromising situation, but that doesn't really go to your point about MLS players vs. Europe-based players. Or did you mean instead of Bedoya or Morales? Both of them play regularly for their clubs too, as does Rubin.

Wood, Green, and then jamming in Johnson, Cameron and Chandler out of position. Morales who plays in the 2 Bundesliga? Diskerud (who's considering an MLS move) over Nguyen as well. That's the problem I have. He calls these MLS guys in, in the middle of the playoffs, and either doesn't play them or plays them out of position. He doesn't know whiskeytangofoxtrot he's doing.

He wants to try out young players but won't give non-playoff MLS kids a chance?

[Shirtless Guy]

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Wood, Green, and then jamming in Johnson, Cameron and Chandler out of position. Morales who plays in the 2 Bundesliga? Diskerud (who's considering an MLS move) over Nguyen as well. That's the problem I have. He calls these MLS guys in, in the middle of the playoffs, and either doesn't play them or plays them out of position. He doesn't know whiskeytangofoxtrot he's doing.

He wants to try out young players but won't give non-playoff MLS kids a chance?

Yeah I don't really understand the whole "giving young guys a try" and then turning around playing Wondo for even a minute. How does that help us build for the next cycle?

[jmh]

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Wood, Green, and then jamming in Johnson, Cameron and Chandler out of position. Morales who plays in the 2 Bundesliga? Diskerud (who's considering an MLS move) over Nguyen as well. That's the problem I have. He calls these MLS guys in, in the middle of the playoffs, and either doesn't play them or plays them out of position. He doesn't know whiskeytangofoxtrot he's doing.

He wants to try out young players but won't give non-playoff MLS kids a chance?

Well, look, I don't get why he likes moving around Cameron and Chandler and Johnson either. Cameron's been sort of a utility player for Stoke, though he played basically the full Premier League season last year at right back. He was injured earlier in the year, but before that he was more or less our first choice center back in the World Cup, and that didn't turn out all that badly. You can only play one right back, and Cameron is taller than the other guys, so... I can't really see the gripe with him. Fabian Johnson played right back in the Bundesliga last year. Chandler plays right back in the Bundesliga. Like I said, you can only play one right back. I still don't get why he moves Chandler to the left rather than Johnson, but they're our two best full backs (or maybe two of the top three along with Chandler), so in general it's a minor gripe; better either of them than ****ing Beasley playing defender again.

Morales plays in the 2.Bundesliga, yes, but plays every match for a team that looks like a decent early bet to get promoted. What's wrong with that? Better than sitting on the bench at Hertha.

What's wrong with Diskerud over Nguyen? Diskerud is legit good, probably our best creative midfielder if Bradley isn't called in, and four years younger than Nguyen, and starts for a team that just ran off nine wins in ten matches to end their season. And Nguyen has playoff games to prepare for, and if he were on your team you'd be happy he wasn't risking injury playing lots of minutes in meaningless friendlies. (Yes, it's odd to fly him over and then not play him, and I'd rather have seen Hyndman in the squad again.)

Green is a massive prospect. Wood is an od choice, I'll give you that.

[Jimjamesak]

Well, look, I don't get why he likes moving around Cameron and Chandler and Johnson either. Cameron's been sort of a utility player for Stoke, though he played basically the full Premier League season last year at right back. He was injured earlier in the year, but before that he was more or less our first choice center back in the World Cup, and that didn't turn out all that badly. You can only play one right back, and Cameron is taller than the other guys, so... I can't really see the gripe with him. Fabian Johnson played right back in the Bundesliga last year. Chandler plays right back in the Bundesliga. Like I said, you can only play one right back. I still don't get why he moves Chandler to the left rather than Johnson, but they're our two best full backs (or maybe two of the top three along with Chandler), so in general it's a minor gripe; better either of them than ****ing Beasley playing defender again.

Cameron was a complete mess at CB this week and he's not our best RB (he's behind Johnson and Yedlin). Maybe Cameron can get it together before next summer. As for Chandler, he's no good and I don't see why he keeps getting time beyond the fact he's German. And don't knock Beasley, he did a * good job at the World Cup.

Morales plays in the 2.Bundesliga, yes, but plays every match for a team that looks like a decent early bet to get promoted. What's wrong with that? Better than sitting on the bench at Hertha.

What's wrong is he a)couldn't do anything to help hold possession and b)greatly contributed to our left side being toruched by Ireland, actually the Ireland B team. Fine, he got playing time and it didn't work, which means we wasted more time on a German-American kid instead of giving somebody else a chance. At the very least, call in some MLS players at the same spot and make them compete, but we don't even get that, Klinsmann just assumes "playing in Germany = better" which is the root of these problems.

What's wrong with Diskerud over Nguyen? Diskerud is legit good, probably our best creative midfielder if Bradley isn't called in, and four years younger than Nguyen, and starts for a team that just ran off nine wins in ten matches to end their season. And Nguyen has playoff games to prepare for, and if he were on your team you'd be happy he wasn't risking injury playing lots of minutes in meaningless friendlies. (Yes, it's odd to fly him over and then not play him, and I'd rather have seen Hyndman in the squad again.)

Why Nguyen? Because Diskerud is actually pretty terrible at being the outlet guy, he can poach but actually getting the ball in the middle and holding possession he can't, and has had plenty chances to change that. Nguyen meanwhile is an unknown quantity at the International level, why not give him a shot?

Now, I don't like any player in the MLS Playoffs being called in, so Nguyen, Jones, and Yedlin should've been left off. But if you do, actually play the guys. Otherwise it's a waste of time.

Green is a massive prospect. Wood is an od choice, I'll give you that.

Green is a massive waste of time. He's not ready for the International level. He needs time to develop and that's his club's responsibility, not Jurgen's. Keep tabs, integrate him into the YNT structure, and come back later, he's not going anywhere now that he's cap tied.

[jmh]

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Green is a massive waste of time. He's not ready for the International level. He needs time to develop and that's his club's responsibility, not Jurgen's. Keep tabs, integrate him into the YNT structure, and come back later, he's not going anywhere now that he's cap tied.

How do you gauge whether he's ready for the international level without seeing him play at the international level?

Cameron was a pretty good Premier League right back last year. The idea that he's not better than Yedlin is kind of absurd. Yedlin has great potential but he's not there yet, any more than Green who you think has no place in the squad.

[Jimjamesak]

How do you gauge whether he's ready for the international level without seeing him play at the international level?

Cameron was a pretty good Premier League right back last year. The idea that he's not better than Yedlin is kind of absurd. Yedlin has great potential but he's not there yet, any more than Green who you think has no place in the squad.

Green has played at the international level and only showed a sliver of skill, the rest of the time he's been timid and out of his depth.

Yedlin is better than Cameron right now, he's faster, croses better, only at 1 on 1 defending does Cameron have a case.

The difference between Yedlin and Green is that Yedlin is a regular starter on his club's first team and undoubtedly the best player at his position in the league. Green meanwhile has a whopping 4 games at the professional level, he's not ready.

[MountieBoyOz]

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From the Unnecessary litigation file

http://blog.foxsoccer.com/post/10314...scom:foxsoccer

[hockeyplayer1015]

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Don't know if this has been posted or seen, but here's a pretty hilarious parody video.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v...779245&fref=nf

[Jimjamesak]

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Eastern Conference Final on NBC right now, pretty good game between New York and New England.

Western starts at 5 EST on ESPN.