The Movie Thread: New, Rented, Whatever....I don't care

[St. Clown]

Re: The Movie Thread: New, Rented, Whatever....I don't care

I think the "Master and Apprentice" means more that you can not have a Sith Academy like you do the Jedi. It is closer to how Obiwon taught Anakin. That doesnt mean there isnt more Masters out there. (if you read the Lucas approved books, there was some sort of Sith revolt or something that caused the Rule of Two)

Also remember not all dark Jedi are considered Sith. Sith is like a religious cult IIRC.

And Empire is way better than A New Hope. It isnt even close...

Lucas Films has declared that the old books are no longer considered relevant, they were moved into a "Legends" category, stories parents in a galaxy far, far away tell their broodlings. Only the books released starting this late summer/early fall are given any consideration. Although, when reading these latest two, they use a lot of terms and species traits written in those >160 Legends books.

[Handyman]

Re: The Movie Thread: New, Rented, Whatever....I don't care

I think the "Master and Apprentice" means more that you can not have a Sith Academy like you do the Jedi. It is closer to how Obiwon taught Anakin. That doesnt mean there isnt more Masters out there. (if you read the Lucas approved books, there was some sort of Sith revolt or something that caused the Rule of Two)

Also remember not all dark Jedi are considered Sith. Sith is like a religious cult IIRC.

And Empire is way better than A New Hope. It isnt even close...

[Kepler]

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I dunno what those numbers mean, but Jedi was the worst of all 6 released. Yeah, I said it.


Empire was obviously the best but Revenge of the Sith was pretty darn solid.

IV, A+
V, B
VI, C-
I, F
II and III, unknown but from everything I've heard, Fs

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A reminder that we lose a national treasure on Dec 18th:

http://io9.com/stephen-colberts-defe...lig-1665665109

He is the best...


Can Jon Oliver do a daily show on CC and still do the HBO thing?

[St. Clown]

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I know that one is not supposed to exercise logic when it comes to these kind of movies, but I am puzzled by something. In one of the movies we are told that there are only two Sith lords, the master and the apprentice. Palpatine and Vader / Anakin were both killed on the Death Star at the end of Return of the Jedi. So where does the Sith in episode 7 come from??

Yoda states that there are only ever two Sith lords at one time, but the Sith themselves never state it. Maybe the Sith accolytes only ever make two of them known to the Jedi at a single moment in time. Perhaps the Force seeks to balance itself by always spawning new Jedi or Sith when one side grows too strong over the other. We don't really know. Lucas even defies that logic by having the Emporer use Vader to try to convert Luke so that there would be three Sith ruling the galaxy rather than two in Return of the Jedi. If somebody out there knew the rule, it would be the Emporer. The new film might address that or just make people accept that the new Sith just came into being. Maybe they'll address it in the new series of books being written that Lucas Films Story Team (I think that's the full name) has stated will be considered Star Wars canon.

[Kepler]

Re: The Movie Thread: New, Rented, Whatever....I don't care

A reminder that we lose a national treasure on Dec 18th:

http://io9.com/stephen-colberts-defe...lig-1665665109

There is indeed a reason for everything, and the reason for Bill O'Reilly to exist is Colbert Report.

It would only be fitting if he had Bill kill him on the last episode.

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

Re: The Movie Thread: New, Rented, Whatever....I don't care

A reminder that we lose a national treasure on Dec 18th:

http://io9.com/stephen-colberts-defe...lig-1665665109

[FreshFish]

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Order 66 was fine, but Anakin killing kids was stupid. Anakin should have flipped in Attack of the Clones and Obiwon should have spent Sith trying to turn him back as he hunts down Jedi and kills them. Revenge of the Sith was a very good movie that was dragged down by the crap that came before it and set it back.

In our household we refuse to watch the ending of Revenge of the Sith. It is absurd that Obi-wan would merely lecture Anakin and then leave him. To be true to the character, either Obi-wan kills Anakin as he lays there, or (our alternate version) we have some kind of volcanic explosion or something that separates Obi-wan and Anakin so that Obi-wan cannot kill him. We literally turn off the movie at that point.

I guess I am in a minority in that I really don't like Attack of the Clowns very much. Except for the scene with Obi-wan on Pamino learning about the clone factory, the entire movie was a waste.

I guess I am in a minority in that I liked Phantom Menace (except for Jar-Jar Binks, of course. Those scenes I'd delete if I could).




I know that one is not supposed to exercise logic when it comes to these kind of movies, but I am puzzled by something. In one of the movies we are told that there are only two Sith lords, the master and the apprentice. Palpatine and Vader / Anakin were both killed on the Death Star at the end of Return of the Jedi. So where does the Sith in episode 7 come from??

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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I once read an argument that the best order in which to watch the series, was to pour gas on Ep 1 and burn it, then watch 4, 5, 2, 3, and 6.

Of course, you have to liberally exercise Kepler's rule of fast-forwarding through all the execrable, wooden, "forbidden couple" scenes between Padme and Anakin in the prequel movies (or, alternately, run the Rifftrax in the background while watching them). Unfortunately, there isn't much you can do about Lucas' obsession with unnecessary CGI density.

[Handyman]

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Order 66 was fine, but Anakin killing kids was stupid. Anakin should have flipped in Attack of the Clones and Obiwon should have spent Sith trying to turn him back as he hunts down Jedi and kills them. Revenge of the Sith was a very good movie that was dragged down by the crap that came before it and set it back.

[St. Clown]

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Disney has a new animated series called Star Wars Rebels. It takes place post Order 66 but pre A New Hope. I like it and it does give me a sliver of hope for VII.

I've been watching it, too. It has potential, but needs to get out of the character introduction phase in a hurry.

[Jimjamesak]

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Disney has a new animated series called Star Wars Rebels. It takes place post Order 66 but pre A New Hope. I like it and it does give me a sliver of hope for VII.

[The Rube]

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Phantom was the 2nd worst. Big gap between 4th-5th, though.

Yes, the Jedi massacre (Order 66) was awesome.

Re: The Movie Thread: New, Rented, Whatever....I don't care

I dunno what those numbers mean, but Jedi was the worst of all 6 released. Yeah, I said it.


Empire was obviously the best but Revenge of the Sith was pretty darn solid.

Nah... Phantom was way, WAY worse.

I agree on Revenge of the Sith though. Thought the destruction of the Jedi was well done and quite heavy to watch.


I really liked the first animated Clone Wars series. I believe they were shorts shown on Cartoon Network.

The Clone Wars was the most interesting part of the prequels and they glossed over them almost completely. I understand why, but would have liked to see Anakin and Kenobi (and Mace etc) kick butt - of course with different actors or a better director.

Oh well.

[The Rube]

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I can only speak of Ep 1 since I ignored the other two. Ep 1 was a tween merchandising scam. What if Steven Spielberg directed a Kenner Toy Saturday morning cartoon?

What people don't seem to remember is how poor Ep 6 was, though. That series ran the classic 95/80/65/50... sequence. From what I've heard, 35 and 20 are too kind for Eps 2 and 3. We're due for a 5 from Ep 7, but if they recapture the dated Space Opera feel of the original I have hopes that it will be adequate.

I dunno what those numbers mean, but Jedi was the worst of all 6 released. Yeah, I said it.


Empire was obviously the best but Revenge of the Sith was pretty darn solid.