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    I'm surprised nobody continued the previous thread sooner. Probably a better place to discuss this than the Obama thread.
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    Re: Health Care Reform - 1/6 of the Economy Up for Grabs

    Originally posted by MinnFan View Post
    I'm surprised nobody continued the previous thread sooner. Probably a better place to discuss this than the Obama thread.
    No one cares anymore?
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      Re: Health Care Reform - 1/6 of the Economy Up for Grabs

      Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
      No one cares anymore?
      Pretty much, its a done deal and unlike Rover I think its going to make things worse not better. Get it done, the sooner the better is all that seems to matter. Does it deal with rising health care costs? Why is it delayed to 2014? if its going to save money, shouldn't we start saving now?
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        Re: Health Care Reform - 1/6 of the Economy Up for Grabs

        Originally posted by walrus View Post
        Pretty much, its a done deal and unlike Rover I think its going to make things worse not better. Get it done, the sooner the better is all that seems to matter. Does it deal with rising health care costs? Why is it delayed to 2014? if its going to save money, shouldn't we start saving now?

        For something as big as this shouldn't the gov't have to prove that it can do what it says before we give over full control?

        The gov't is already 0-2 when it comes to entitlement programs. Why should they get a third?
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          Re: Health Care Reform - 1/6 of the Economy Up for Grabs

          Originally posted by MinnFan View Post
          For something as big as this shouldn't the gov't have to prove that it can do what it says before we give over full control?

          The gov't is already 0-2 when it comes to entitlement programs. Why should they get a third?
          Just curious, but what is your problem with Social Security?

          Regarding walrus' question, there is an effort to speed up certain provisions of the law, but some others will take time to set up (exchanges, public option, etc).
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            Re: Health Care Reform - 1/6 of the Economy Up for Grabs

            Originally posted by Rover View Post
            Just curious, but what is your problem with Social Security?
            He can speak for himself, but I'm guessing it might have to do with the "Social Security running out of funds" issue that's on the horizon.

            I think that'll end up being an overblown issue. Once the boomers start kicking the bucket, our population growth trends will normalize everything.
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              Re: Health Care Reform - 1/6 of the Economy Up for Grabs

              Originally posted by Rover View Post
              Regarding walrus' question, there is an effort to speed up certain provisions of the law, but some others will take time to set up (exchanges, public option, etc).
              Not talking about parts of the bill, I'm talking the whole thing, why is it set to go into affect in 2014 when it could be saving us money now?
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                Re: Health Care Reform - 1/6 of the Economy Up for Grabs

                Originally posted by walrus View Post
                Not talking about parts of the bill, I'm talking the whole thing, why is it set to go into affect in 2014 when it could be saving us money now?
                Again with how you can't set all of this stuff up overnight....
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                  Re: Health Care Reform - 1/6 of the Economy Up for Grabs

                  Originally posted by MinnFan View Post
                  I'm surprised nobody continued the previous thread sooner. Probably a better place to discuss this than the Obama thread.
                  Why? Considering how he's draped himself with this issue, it may very well define his presidency.
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                    Re: Health Care Reform - 1/6 of the Economy Up for Grabs

                    Originally posted by ExileOnDaytonStreet View Post
                    He can speak for himself, but I'm guessing it might have to do with the "Social Security running out of funds" issue that's on the horizon.

                    I think that'll end up being an overblown issue. Once the boomers start kicking the bucket, our population growth trends will normalize everything.
                    But if the boomers live longer due to better health care, they will drain the SS system dry sooner.

                    Now, how to prevent that from happening...........
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                      Re: Health Care Reform - 1/6 of the Economy Up for Grabs

                      Originally posted by Rover View Post
                      Again with how you can't set all of this stuff up overnight....
                      Running out of brillance I see
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                        Re: Health Care Reform - 1/6 of the Economy Up for Grabs

                        Originally posted by joecct View Post
                        But if the boomers live longer due to better health care, they will drain the SS system dry sooner.

                        Now, how to prevent that from happening...........
                        Death panels.
                        Lipstick!

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                          Re: Health Care Reform - 1/6 of the Economy Up for Grabs

                          Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                          Death panels.
                          Lipstick!
                          Heh! not verbose but funny!

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                            Re: Health Care Reform - 1/6 of the Economy Up for Grabs

                            Originally posted by joecct View Post
                            But if the boomers live longer due to better health care, they will drain the SS system dry sooner.

                            Now, how to prevent that from happening...........
                            CC to Joecct- check your email.

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                              Re: Health Care Reform - 1/6 of the Economy Up for Grabs

                              Originally posted by Rover View Post
                              Just curious, but what is your problem with Social Security?
                              For starters, its bankrupt.
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