My Stanley Cup Runneth Over

[pgb-ohio]

Re: My Stanley Cup Runneth Over

Yep. It was a gutting last time around. This time, not so much.

Appreciate the lists assembled by you and Farce Poobah, and agree with your conclusions.

I'd add that for Bolland and Frolik, their trade value was never going to go higher than it was at this point. The old adage of "buy low, sell high" applies. This was a case of selling high. It's always hard to say goodbye to contributors, which these guys obviously were. But if the deals were going to happen, the timing was appropriate.

No one knows if the prospects obtained will pan out. But everyone seems to agree that this year's draft was unusually deep. So getting mostly 2013 picks (as opposed to future drafts) also seems like a solid strategy.

Other losses after 2009-2010 (guys that played 60+ games)
Brouwer
Eager
Fraser
Sopel
Madden
and Huet
(and Campbell and Kopecky a year later) ... I had been repressing just exactly how much talent they had to send out after 2010.

This year, the moves this week appear to free up money to sign/keep the "extended core" intact: Emery, Handzus, Kruger, Leddy, Roszival ...
... while allowing the next generation of young players some time and space to develop.

As of tonight, capgeek says the Hawks are 9.5 million under the cap, so I would think its possible to get the rest of it done from here. (Without more trades.)

Yep. It was a gutting last time around. This time, not so much.

I doubt very much that they re-sign Emery as I believe he wants to start and they picked up some Euro late in the season as the presumptive backup.

I REALLY hope they don't re-sign Zus (as a 2nd line center anyway) as it's time for Pirri and/or LeBlanc to get a shot. I'm thrilled for Zus that he got a Cup and he contributed with 2 HUGE goals, but **** if he didn't look slow at times and he's only getting older.

Leddy is a must, Kruger is a close to must and Rosi would be good to keep if possible. In addition, Toews, Kane and Crawford are due just around the corner. Might not be the worst thing to bank some of that Cap space.

[First Time, Long Time]

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I have not looked into it, but I know on the surface, the Wild had some possible cap issues. Dunno if Buttercup's (actually, am a fan of him, just using the humorous nickname given by Don) salary factored into that.

Nino makes more (2.75 mil) if he makes the NHL than Cal would have.
The issue was paying Cal 2+ to be a 3rd liner when Nino can provide more offense and is physical as well.
Russo makes it sound like Seto is likely traded and Gilbert may be bought out for the Cap room and an play to upgrade the defense.

[Farce Poobah]

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Last time we lost:

Ladd
Byfuglien
Versteeg
Niemi

This time:
Bolland
Frolik

and re-signed Bickell


Not even close. I'm happy and believe that they may bring a free agent with the freed up cap space.

Despite his game 6 heroics, Bolland was suffering from yearly diminishing returns since 2010 and would have walked after next season. Glad we got some picks.

Frolik was a great pk and will be missed in that role, but his cap hit was a bit much for a 4th liner.

Hope they do well in the future and at least they don't leave Chicago empty handed.

Other losses after 2009-2010 (guys that played 60+ games)
Brouwer
Eager
Fraser
Sopel
Madden
and Huet
(and Campbell and Kopecky a year later) ... I had been repressing just exactly how much talent they had to send out after 2010.

This year, the moves this week appear to free up money to sign/keep the "extended core" intact: Emery, Handzus, Kruger, Leddy, Roszival ...
... while allowing the next generation of young players some time and space to develop.

As of tonight, capgeek says the Hawks are 9.5 million under the cap, so I would think its possible to get the rest of it done from here. (Without more trades.)

[The Rube]

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Aren't they just adorable?

I can see why it happened, but I'm still not a fan of trading Clutterbuck, as I liked what he brought to the team- aside from what he could/couldn't do for the scoresheet. A good energy guy.

I have not looked into it, but I know on the surface, the Wild had some possible cap issues. Dunno if Buttercup's (actually, am a fan of him, just using the humorous nickname given by Don) salary factored into that.

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

Read on twitter that there are bandwagoners who are calling for Bowman's head for making all these trades right after winning.

Hilarious.

Aren't they just adorable?

I can see why it happened, but I'm still not a fan of trading Clutterbuck, as I liked what he brought to the team- aside from what he could/couldn't do for the scoresheet. A good energy guy.

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So Bolland to the Leafs, Frolik to the Jets. Are the Hawks recreating the summer of 2010 again? Who else gets voted off the island?


Read on twitter that there are bandwagoners who are calling for Bowman's head for making all these trades right after winning.

Hilarious.

Last time we lost:

Ladd
Byfuglien
Versteeg
Niemi

This time:
Bolland
Frolik

and re-signed Bickell


Not even close. I'm happy and believe that they may bring a free agent with the freed up cap space.

Despite his game 6 heroics, Bolland was suffering from yearly diminishing returns since 2010 and would have walked after next season. Glad we got some picks.

Frolik was a great pk and will be missed in that role, but his cap hit was a bit much for a 4th liner.

Hope they do well in the future and at least they don't leave Chicago empty handed.

[First Time, Long Time]

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Brodeur's kid taken by NJ and he announces the pick.

[Bomber]

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Bickell signed to a 4 year deal.

[aparch]

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So Bolland to the Leafs, Frolik to the Jets. Are the Hawks recreating the summer of 2010 again? Who else gets voted off the island?


Read on twitter that there are bandwagoners who are calling for Bowman's head for making all these trades right after winning.

Hilarious.

[First Time, Long Time]

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Islanders take Cammarata.

[MountieBoyOz]

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With the never-ending 7uno8o trade saga and having to deal with the Sedins, what's the over/under on a date that Torts snaps on the media up in Vancouver?

[Proud2baLaker]

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Still can't believe Jones fell to Nashville. Poille's gotta be dancing in the streets - have a crappy year and land Suter's replacement.

Yahoo called Jones fall from "projected top 2" to 4th "dramatic." Falling 2 spots is not dramatic.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Still can't believe Jones fell to Nashville. Poille's gotta be dancing in the streets - have a crappy year and land Suter's replacement.

Yeah, Lu apparently is shocked and will not talk to reporters.

Meanwhile, when Brodeur finally retires, the Devils now have his replacement after years of not drafting goalies.

[aparch]

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Looks like the CanSucks are stuck with 7uno8o.

Reports coming from the draft floor indicate that Gillis' plan all along was to only develop Cory well enough to flip him for a high draft pick. Sounds like back pedaling by Gillis.

Also: Luongo was absolutely blindsided by the trade. Cory, well, he was texted by a friend at TSN to "Turn the draft on..." to find his fate.