The PPACA - Implementation Phase I

[FreshFish]

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I am shocked that people who opposed the law are now saying it is a failure.

What's a failure here is your reading comprehension, though in your case it appears to be too late to fix it.

It's too soon to tell about the law. It's the implementation of the federal exchanges that has been a failure so far.

[FreshFish]

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That's ok. No one clicks on them anyway.

So you are now calling yourself "No One"? Did you just finish the scene from the Oddysey in Polyphemus' cave?

[Priceless]

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What's a failure here is your reading comprehension, though in your case it appears to be too late to fix it.

It's too soon to tell about the law. It's the implementation of the federal exchanges that has been a failure so far.

As I said, something on the Internet that has some problems. I'm shocked. The government should have farmed it out to a private company so that wouldn't happen. Maybe Microsoft.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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As I said, something on the Internet that has some problems. I'm shocked. The government should have farmed it out to a private company so that wouldn't happen. Maybe Microsoft.

State of Washington seems to be doing fine from a technical standpoint (can't speak to the actual insurance plans). Perhaps the feds should have farmed it out.

In all honesty, I'm well aware the feds had a tough task implementing this monster. SWA was hard enough for my employer - it took over a year. Still, it seems the feds obviously started too late and had to rush the job. That will always lead to major problems in any project, not just IT.

[FreshFish]

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State of Washington seems to be doing fine from a technical standpoint (can't speak to the actual insurance plans). Perhaps the feds should have farmed it out.

In all honesty, I'm well aware the feds had a tough task implementing this monster. SWA was hard enough for my employer - it took over a year. Still, it seems the feds obviously started too late and had to rush the job. That will always lead to major problems in any project, not just IT.

All you say is true.

The situation is also compounded by dissembling that appears to have political movites. Better to obfuscate and deny rather than admit the obvious?

I've read various versions of the following in several places:

In a White House speech Monday, President Obama assured the public that his new health-care law is up and running even in the absence of a functioning Web site. He told people they can call an 800 number instead of buying coverage online.

Reporters duly called the number and got busy signals, or when getting through and following the directions, got referred back to healthcare.gov, [which then referred them back to the 800 number]

[FreshFish]

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Consumer Reports tried to give potential users some advice:

First, follow very carefully the needlessly complicated instructions for creating a password that has at least seven characters and at least one uppercase letter, one lowercase letter, one number and one symbol.

 Second, as soon as you encounter a problem logging on, start over, since you can’t believe what the error messages tell you.

 If you happen to make it through, keep a sharp eye out for an e-mail confirming your account, or you’ll soon be timed out.

 Finally, when verifying your identity on the site, you may want to do it from a different browser than the one you registered from.

Got it? The publication’s bottom line: “Stay away from Healthcare.gov for at least another month if you can.”

Consumer Reports is not generally thought to be partisan in any way, shape or form.


I want to see my government display more competence than this. If I were a supporter of the law, I'd be furious: I wouldn't be making excuses, I'd be demanding accountability. The rollout is the opposite of what was promised, despite over two years and $400 million dollars "invested" so far.

[Rover]

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Has John Kasich turned liberal????

http://wonkwire.rollcall.com/2013/10...ands-medicaid/

If the ACA is so bad, then why are GOP governors participating in it?

I now expect the man to be primaried by a Ted Cruz accolyte because of his resorting to dictatorial methods to override the incompetent state legislature.

[Priceless]

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Dana Milbank

WASHINGTON — Fox News’ Sean Hannity, that paragon of journalistic integrity, hosted six “average Americans” on his show this month who were “feeling the pain” of Obamacare.
One was Paul Cox, who runs a North Carolina construction business and complained that the new law prevented him from hiring full-time employees because he would have to provide health insurance to anybody working more than 30 hours a week.

“We’ve had to keep them below 30 hours or we wouldn’t be able to ... stay in business and pay it,” Cox said.

“It’s happening all the time,” Hannity contributed.

If by “it” Hannity meant “misinforming the American public,” then, yes, it is happening all the time.

Salon’s Eric Stern called Cox, and he found that Cox’s business has only four employees — so it is not affected by the new requirement, which applies to businesses with 50 or more workers. Stern reported that, after he asked Cox how this decision not to hire full-time workers was related to Obamacare, “There was a long pause, after which he said he’d call me back. He never did.” The others on Hannity’s program were similarly off-base.

[ScoobyDoo]

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Hannity, O'Reilly, Hume.

A washing machine only wishes it could spin as fast.

[walrus]

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So I guess no one is cutting people to under 30 hours to avoid paying for Obama care, awesome, that works out great

[ScoobyDoo]

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So I guess no one is cutting people to under 30 hours to avoid paying for Obama care, awesome, that works out great

Well, if they are would you really want to work there anyway?

Tying Health Care to employment and having employers providing it is THE STUPIDEST IDEA we ever came up with.

But, if you want to make it work here's how we can get it cheaper.

1. If someone doesn't have insurance don't treat them until you've verified they can pay.
2. If someone goes bankrupt because of their health just let it happen.
3. If someone is unemployed and gets sick and doesn't have health insurance tough, you can't have health insurance unless you're employed, do not have a preexisting condition, OR can afford it out of pocket.
4. If you have a preexisting condition you better get rich fast cause we can't help you.

Problem solved. Abolish this stupid law and let's implement the Republicans plan which I've outlined above.

[walrus]

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Well, if they are would you really want to work there anyway?
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Yep, people working retail or food service have so many opportunities they can just quit anytime they want no matter what their employer is like

[Rover]

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This is one of the many reasons why I say conservatives have lost their fastball. Hannity's staff couldn't have done a little research themselves to figure out the circumstances before he put them on the air? When a guy tells you he's switching people to part time, wouldn't even a simpleton ask how many people he's doing that for out of his total # of employees? And when he replies "all 4 of them" maybe you don't have a winner here?

Reminds me of Breitbert setting up a previously unknown low level govt employee with a doctored video. He couldn't have found some actual wrongdoing in the govt that wouldn't involve him getting sued?

Lee Atwater must be rolling over in that grave of fire he's lying in over in hell.

[ScoobyDoo]

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Yep, people working retail or food service have so many opportunities they can just quit anytime they want no matter what their employer is like

Well, people working retail or food service aren't likely to get Health Care anyway. I didn't when I worked in food. UPS just cut health care for all of its employees and lied about it being Obamacare's fault. I used to get full coverage for me and everyone in my family. I now LUCKILY get coverage for everyone in my family but I have to pay a significant portion of it out of my own pocket.

I think it's hilarious your advocating for employers to provide health insurance and then blaming Obamacare when they don't. They've always had a choice and it's always been cost prohibitive. I've worked for smaller companies my whole career and the number one thing the owners have complained about is Health Care expenses. This crap has been going on then for over 22 years.

[unofan]

So I guess no one is cutting people to under 30 hours to avoid paying for Obama care, awesome, that works out great

I'm sure there are some employers out there doing so. But the vast majority are not. And those that are likely would've done so anyway and are just using the ACA as an excuse. They are likely the same ones who try to classify everyone as exempt employees to force them to work unpaid overtime or schedule people randomly, thereby preventing them from getting a second job despite telling people they should get one as part of their budget counseling...