The PPACA - Implementation Phase I

[FreshFish]

Re: The PPACA - Implementation Phase I

Overpay??? No one has asked anyone to overpay.

I guess you haven't been watching or reading the news lately. It's been splashed all over. The young and healthy have to overpay relative to their risk level. It's an integral part of PPACA, they deliberately designed it this way.

You seriously haven't seen any reference to the fact that if not enough young people enroll, it won't work??

[Rover]

Happy for you that you're in a position to gamble. I'm not. And insurance is expensive and I despise everything about it.

We've already had this discussion with him. His calculations are based on putting zero value on having insurance. So, if the fine is 200 bucks and insurance costs 201, he'd chose to not get insurance. Libertarians like to keep it simple.

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: The PPACA - Implementation Phase I

I took a look at how much health insurance were to cost me if I were to elect to get continuation coverage. I'm better off paying Uncle Sam.

Happy for you that you're in a position to gamble. I'm not. And insurance is expensive and I despise everything about it.

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: The PPACA - Implementation Phase I

Insurance rates for young people were expected to increase under the PPACA vs what they would have been charged in their low-risk insurance pools before the law was enacted.

I took a look at how much health insurance were to cost me if I were to elect to get continuation coverage. I'm better off paying Uncle Sam.

[Rover]

I just thought of something else out of whack.

We keep reading and hearing that the exchanges need lots of young healthy people to overpay for insurance, so that their excess premiums subsidize older sicker folk.

yet, PPACA also allows young people to stay on their parents' policies until age 26.

kind of contradictory, eh?

Ummm....what if the parents are unwilling to pay for their adult kids? Or if the parents don't have insurance?

Think Fishy, think. Don't just regurgitate what you read on Drudge.

[St. Clown]

Re: The PPACA - Implementation Phase I

Overpay??? No one has asked anyone to overpay. Unless you're saying that all insurance is "overpay" which I would tend to agree. Unfortunately even if that is so insurance is most necessary whether we want it or not, and it's often required (i.e. Homeowners and Auto).

Insurance rates for young people were expected to increase under the PPACA vs what they would have been charged in their low-risk insurance pools before the law was enacted.

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: The PPACA - Implementation Phase I

I just thought of something else out of whack.

We keep reading and hearing that the exchanges need lots of young healthy people to overpay for insurance, so that their excess premiums subsidize older sicker folk.

yet, PPACA also allows young people to stay on their parents' policies until age 26.

kind of contradictory, eh?

Overpay??? No one has asked anyone to overpay. Unless you're saying that all insurance is "overpay" which I would tend to agree. Unfortunately even if that is so insurance is most necessary whether we want it or not, and it's often required (i.e. Homeowners and Auto).

[FreshFish]

Re: The PPACA - Implementation Phase I

I just thought of something else out of whack.

We keep reading and hearing that the exchanges need lots of young healthy people to overpay for insurance, so that their excess premiums subsidize older sicker folk.

yet, PPACA also allows young people to stay on their parents' policies until age 26.

kind of contradictory, eh?

[FreshFish]

Re: The PPACA - Implementation Phase I

I wonder if Microsoft is in charge of the roll out.... I was told never buy Version 1.0 of any product. Always wait for the update.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybens...es-up-n1714285

Through the Looking Glass.

I heard The Great Orator say on the radio today that the 'glitches' might take months to fix. yet he is adamantly opposed to delaying the rollout.

Kindergarten 101: "take the time to get it right."

[joecct]

Re: The PPACA - Implementation Phase I

I wonder if Microsoft is in charge of the roll out.... I was told never buy Version 1.0 of any product. Always wait for the update.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybens...es-up-n1714285

[JF_Gophers]

Re: The PPACA - Implementation Phase I

http://www.mnsure.org/ will probably work correctly, even if the other 49 don't.

[Rover]

Widespread reports today that the highly touted insurance exchange website doesn't really do anything it was promised to do (compare plans, network provider lists, estimates of tax rebates, tailored plans to conditions, etc. etc.) Instead, they're hiring hundreds of "navigators" to help people out by collecting their name, address, SS#, $ in savings, bank account info., medical history, and then entering it into "the system" for them. Here's the interesting part: they don't have time to do any kind of background checks on these temps collecting all this info, they could be Muslims for all the feds know.... Obamacare was a complete and utter failure. Again, what a shocker.

Fight The Power Geezer!

Well isn't THIS interesting. While The Boner is trying to attach in public a provision to stop Hill staffers from getting some money to pay for insurance, he himself was lobbying in private for the very opposite to happen!

What an idiot! Hey Fishy, this is your champion for stopping Obamacare? Good luck with that!

[geezer]

Re: The PPACA - Implementation Phase I

How can something be a failure when it hasn't even happened yet?

Widespread reports today that the highly touted insurance exchange website doesn't really do anything it was promised to do (compare plans, network provider lists, estimates of tax rebates, tailored plans to conditions, etc. etc.) Instead, they're hiring hundreds of "navigators" to help people out by collecting their name, address, SS#, $ in savings, bank account info., medical history, and then entering it into "the system" for them. Here's the interesting part: they don't have time to do any kind of background checks on these temps collecting all this info, they could be Muslims for all the feds know.... Obamacare was a complete and utter failure. Again, what a shocker.

[joecct]

1. there's a shocker for you: Obamacare failed. Who could possibly have foreseen that train wreck coming?
2. The pseudo-shutdown forced Obama to run over to the zoo last night and pull the plug on a live camera feed of a panda bear, in some kind of fit of spite. I thought it was funny that's the worst he could come up with. Reports of the sky falling may have been exaggerated.
3. I really want a t-shirt or at least a badge that says, "ESSENTIAL EMPLOYEE."

There are a few. Where I used to work, we had a large # of experimental crops and animals that still need to be fed. Those employees are still needed as is the vet.

Apparently with 2.5 million, the Federal government is the largest employer in the USA.
(left out the decimal place)

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: The PPACA - Implementation Phase I

1. there's a shocker for you: Obamacare failed. Who could possibly have foreseen that train wreck coming?
2. The pseudo-shutdown forced Obama to run over to the zoo last night and pull the plug on a live camera feed of a panda bear, in some kind of fit of spite. I thought it was funny that's the worst he could come up with. Reports of the sky falling may have been exaggerated.
3. I really want a t-shirt or at least a badge that says, "ESSENTIAL EMPLOYEE."

How can something be a failure when it hasn't even happened yet?