The PPACA - Implementation Phase I

[unofan]

That's exactly what is wrong with our entire system. This should not be true. Why are we required to pay for things we don't want or need?

It's called living in a society. We all pay for shiat we don't want or need personally.

[Tiggsy]

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I fail to see why that is a problem. As John Roberts said Obamacare is a TAX. As a TAX people will be paying for **** they don't want or need.

That's exactly what is wrong with our entire system. This should not be true. Why are we required to pay for things we don't want or need?

[ericredaxe]

If you are an unmarried male, you are still required to purchase a policy that offers maternity benefits.

If you are a childless couple in your 50s, you are still required to purchase a policy that offers pediatric care.

I don't mind the individual mandate in general, but this is stupid.

[goldy_331]

I was wondering the other day. How many times in 2014 are we going to see a political ad for a republican candidate that include Obama's sound bite "you like your old policy, you get to keep it"?

At least as many times as Obama said it. Last count I saw was 24 iirc.

[St. Clown]

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Not quite. Justice Roberts said that the "penalty" for not buying insurance is a tax. The premiums for health insurance are not a "tax."

You don't see a problem for person who lives in the mountains being required to buy flood insurance? or a person who lives in Iowa being required to buy insurance against earthquake damage?

Scooby has a long history of posting that two wrongs makes a right on this board when it comes to politics and governing.

[ScoobyDoo]

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Not quite. Justice Roberts said that the "penalty" for not buying insurance is a tax. The premiums for health insurance are not a "tax."

You don't see a problem for person who lives in the mountains being required to buy flood insurance? or a person who lives in Iowa being required to buy insurance against earthquake damage?

No. Since the Feds pay for flood damage and insurance anyway they're paying for flood insurance regardless if they thing they aren't or not. What part of we're all paying for **** we don't want to pay for don't you get?

[FreshFish]

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As John Roberts said Obamacare is a TAX.

Not quite. Justice Roberts said that the "penalty" for not buying insurance is a tax. The premiums for health insurance are not a "tax."

You don't see a problem for person who lives in the mountains being required to buy flood insurance? or a person who lives in Iowa being required to buy insurance against earthquake damage?

[MattS]

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Rut will most certainly change-and you can take this one to the bank-is that the care you will be getting will not be for the most part by the most qualified person to give it. And even at that-the care you will get will be what is the most economical and not the most beneficial.

I am very sure that the "most qualified person to give it" is not from whom a vast majority of people are receiving their medical care from right now. So I doubt that most people will notice any difference in the level of medical care they are receiving. I have no delusions that the doctor I go to is most qualified in anything. If most people think they are seeing the most qualified doctor then they are deluding themselves.

Also, as I am sure you are aware, since the beginning of time medical care has always had economics involved. This is not a new thing. Is it going to play a larger role? Maybe, for some things I am sure. Overall, I doubt it will play out as bad as the critics believe. Time will tell though.

[ScoobyDoo]

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If you are an unmarried male, you are still required to purchase a policy that offers maternity benefits.

If you are a childless couple in your 50s, you are still required to purchase a policy that offers pediatric care.

I fail to see why that is a problem. As John Roberts said Obamacare is a TAX. As a TAX people will be paying for **** they don't want or need.

[FreshFish]

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I was wondering the other day. How many times in 2014 are we going to see a political ad for a republican candidate that include Obama's sound bite "you like your old policy, you get to keep it"?

I hope Bart Stupak suffers from daily heartburn as he sees these events unfolding.

[SJHovey]

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I think USCHO should establish the Wallace Hartley award. To be given monthly? (annually?) to the ******* who plays his violin most sincerely in the face of disaster. Obamacare (the rollout and the law) are disasters. And the *******s who post here know it. But Democrats up for reelection next year are heading for the lifeboats. Once again demonstrating the truth of the old expression about rats and sinking ships. Bon voyage.

During the government shutdown *******s chanted in unison: "Republicans own this." Well, sweeties, you own Obamacare. I'm guessing voters paying those increased premiums next year (you know, for policies that provide pre natal care for men and post menopausal women) will remember who's responsible.

I was wondering the other day. How many times in 2014 are we going to see a political ad for a republican candidate that include Obama's sound bite "you like your old policy, you get to keep it"?

[FreshFish]

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If you are an unmarried male, you are still required to purchase a policy that offers maternity benefits.

If you are a childless couple in your 50s, you are still required to purchase a policy that offers pediatric care.

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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls: this loser ain't me.

Did you really think anyone would make that mistake?

[Old Pio]

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Show me a doctor who doesn't get paid, and I'll show you a bridge I have for sale.

Edit: once you get past college football and basketball coaches, the next highest salaries for state employees are typically doctors.

If you had been smart enough, maybe you should have given medicine a shot. If you had been smart enough.

[Old Pio]

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Fixed your post. You and a couple other USCHO conservaginas, most notably our "libertarian" sociopath FlagDUDE, have proven time and time again with your platitudinous codswallop, that you've swallowed the Koch brothers' agenda - hook, line, and sinker. You are the ones obsessed with race (interesting for an ancient white guy such as yourself to be so keenly fixated on telling the black community his ideas for how they should behave themselves), you are the ones going apesh*t about every single thing Obama has tried to do, whilst subtly applauding the childish lack of negotiation from your side of the aisle, and you are the ones carping endlessly about "high" taxes and "wasteful" spending, whilst turning a blind eye to corporate subsidies and tax breaks. Why?

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls: this loser ain't me.