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  • Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    They aren't giving up: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...x-will-test-c/

    However, looking at the Constitution, they have a point; it's just a question of where it originated: http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/cha...ranscript.html

    Although, perhaps there's a double jeopardy issue?
    Res judicata. Double jeopardy is specific to criminal cases.

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      Originally posted by unofan View Post
      Res judicata. Double jeopardy is specific to criminal cases.
      Fair enough.

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        After reading up on Res Judicata, the 7th amendment makes the case for it. However, the next question is if the identity of the cause at suit is enough to allow it to be a different case.

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          Stimulus combined with Obamacare

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            So PPACA is supposed to provide everyone coverage regardless of pre-existing conditions, eh?

            oops!


            [During 2013,] people [with pre-existing conditions] have to rely on a plan administered by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS). Well, guess what?

            The CMS has announced that it has run out of money to enroll any more individuals in the program. So it is blocking states from accepting any more applications.
            [emphasis added]

            hmmm....run out of money after 3 months for a transition year of 12 months total?

            This is not a good omen for the future.
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              Originally posted by joecct View Post
              Stimulus combined with Obamacare

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              I'm sure these fine upstanding citizens are just full of great ideas...

              I also like how Paul Ryan's plan to "repair" medicare is essentially Obamacare for seniors.

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                Once the camel's nose gets under the tent flap, the whole camel cannot be far behind.... Shocked, but not surprised.

                http://www.rethinksociety.com/govern...under-ca-bill/
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                • Originally posted by joecct View Post
                  Once the camel's nose gets under the tent flap, the whole camel cannot be far behind.... Shocked, but not surprised.

                  http://www.rethinksociety.com/govern...under-ca-bill/
                  Yeah, gonna need more than a random website with headlines meant to scare my godparents before I believe this one at face value.

                  FTFA:"It also means that, if pedophilia is a sexual orientation, that discrimination laws also apply to pedophiles. That means you cannot block a pedophile from being a preschool teacher or any other high-risk occupation."

                  That is a false statement. Business necessity and direct threat to one's self or others are defenses to discrimination suits.

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                    Originally posted by unofan View Post
                    Yeah, gonna need more than a random website with headlines meant to scare my godparents before I believe this one at face value.

                    FTFA:"It also means that, if pedophilia is a sexual orientation, that discrimination laws also apply to pedophiles. That means you cannot block a pedophile from being a preschool teacher or any other high-risk occupation."

                    That is a false statement. Business necessity and direct threat to one's self or others are defenses to discrimination suits.
                    Some could make the same case about Muslims...

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                    • Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                      Some could make the same case about Muslims...
                      I thought I was on ignore? Or were you misremembering when you said that?

                      "Some" would? Would you be one of that "some" comparing a major world religion with pedophilia?

                      Pedophilia is a desire to do an illegal act. Pray tell how worshiping the god of abraham and reading the koran is remotely comparable.
                      Last edited by unofan; 04-03-2013, 06:23 PM.

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                        Originally posted by unofan View Post
                        I thought I was on ignore? Or were you misremembering when you said that?

                        "Some" would? Would you be one of that "some" comparing a major world religion with pedophilia?

                        Pedophilia is a desire to do an illegal act. Pray tell how worshiping the god of abraham and reading the koran is remotely comparable.
                        If you actually use your brain in a post, I'll respond. If it's a bunch of "knucks suck" drabble, I'm not going to bother.

                        Would you consider murder to be an illegal act? How about the jihads associated with it?

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                        • Originally posted by joecct View Post
                          Once the camel's nose gets under the tent flap, the whole camel cannot be far behind.... Shocked, but not surprised.

                          http://www.rethinksociety.com/govern...under-ca-bill/
                          You already got called to account with this crap on the 2nd Term thread. We await your response...
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                          • Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                            If you actually use your brain in a post, I'll respond. If it's a bunch of "knucks suck" drabble, I'm not going to bother.

                            Would you consider murder to be an illegal act? How about the jihads associated with it?
                            So does that mean you think christianity is the same as pedophilia? After all, they've got their share of blood and crusades on their hands as well.

                            Or are you going to come back with the "I'm just being an *** and don't actually believe the crap I'm spewing out of my mouth" defense?
                            Last edited by unofan; 04-04-2013, 12:45 PM.

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                              OK left-wingers, time to boycott the cinemas. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/15...ing-obamacare/

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                                Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                                OK left-wingers, time to boycott the cinemas. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/15...ing-obamacare/
                                And they'll have to boycott the State of Virginia.
                                Originally posted by From the Link
                                In addition to the movie theater chain and several restaurants, the state of Virginia also rolled back the hours of all part-time employees back to 29 per week in February, with officials from the state claiming that the new mandate would cost the state tens of millions of dollars a year.
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