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  • #76
    Re: Elections 2012.2 - Congressional and Gubernatorial

    Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
    People mention Carter, but the Dems of today are very different in many ways than the Dems back then. You can make the claim that the vast majority of past presidents are different than where their party is now.
    This was exactly my point. Same goes for Jefferson or Jackson...they are both considered "Democrats," yet there is no way in the world that they would be Democrats today.
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    • #77
      Re: Elections 2012.2 - Congressional and Gubernatorial

      Originally posted by Rover View Post
      I'm pretty sure Coolidge was a straight shooter also...
      Coolidge would have to have first spoke in order to lie.
      "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

      "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

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      • #78
        Re: Elections 2012.2 - Congressional and Gubernatorial

        Originally posted by Foxton View Post
        And Christie is on the way out, it has begun!
        Whoever this nut is, he's actually right, it is a socialist policy for the government to essentially set the price of a good. However, it's a very justifiable one in this case. In true capitalism, the limited number of gas stations that can operate would be able to jack up prices according to demand. Which is why the United States is not a true capitalist society.

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        • #79
          Re: Elections 2012.2 - Congressional and Gubernatorial

          Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
          Whoever this nut is
          The guy every republican candidate for president rushed to give fellatio to.

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          • #80
            Re: Elections 2012.2 - Congressional and Gubernatorial

            Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
            This was exactly my point. Same goes for Jefferson or Jackson...they are both considered "Democrats," yet there is no way in the world that they would be Democrats today.
            Sadly, I doubt JFK would be considered a Democrat today either:
            > big tax cut to spur the economy
            > encouraged volunteer activity, not compulsory
            > strongly anti-Communist
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            • #81
              Re: Elections 2012.2 - Congressional and Gubernatorial

              Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
              Sadly, I doubt JFK would be considered a Democrat today either:
              > big tax cut to spur the economy
              > encouraged volunteer activity, not compulsory
              > strongly anti-Communist
              I'm not sure why you'd be sad about that, but keep in mind that Kennedy cut the top marginal rate to...70%. I'm not so sure he'd be seen as a republican today...but he certainly wasn't a hyper-liberal, and certainly was not as liberal as Teddy Kennedy.
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              • #82
                Re: Elections 2012.2 - Congressional and Gubernatorial

                Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
                Sadly, I doubt JFK would be considered a Democrat today either:
                > big tax cut to spur the economy
                > encouraged volunteer activity, not compulsory
                > strongly anti-Communist
                Maybe, but I'd bet he would be a Democrat now regardless. Agree though that both parties are vastly different.
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                • #83
                  Re: Elections 2012.2 - Congressional and Gubernatorial

                  Originally posted by Gurtholfin View Post
                  Stay classy 'Nucks...


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                  How is this any different than Democrats complaining about the Republicans and the Wall Street lobby? Or the religious right?

                  If he had said the fa***t lobby, I'd have a problem with it.
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                  May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                  Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                  I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                  Originally posted by Kepler
                  When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                  He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                  • #84
                    Re: Elections 2012.2 - Congressional and Gubernatorial

                    Another wow moment. The Republicans are up in Indiana 2 with 82% reporting (47-49), a seat that was expected to easily go to the Dems. They also picked up a seat in Kentucky 6. A seat that was expected to go to the Dems in a relatively close race.
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                    Originally posted by SanTropez
                    May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                    Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                    I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                    Originally posted by Kepler
                    When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                    He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                    • #85
                      Re: Elections 2012.2 - Congressional and Gubernatorial

                      Now Illinois 10 (expected to go Dem) has the Republican up by 4 percent with 77% reporting...
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                      Originally posted by SanTropez
                      May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                      Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                      I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                      Originally posted by Kepler
                      When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                      He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                      • #86
                        Re: Elections 2012.2 - Congressional and Gubernatorial

                        Warren wins! At least one of Massachusetts' atrocities is corrected. Have fun cleaning out your office Brownie!
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                        • #87
                          Re: Elections 2012.2 - Congressional and Gubernatorial

                          Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
                          I'm not sure why you'd be sad about that, but keep in mind that Kennedy cut the top marginal rate to...70%. I'm not so sure he'd be seen as a republican today...but he certainly wasn't a hyper-liberal, and certainly was not as liberal as Teddy Kennedy.
                          Down from 90 -- a 22% cut in the rates. When JFK died, Teddy would probably be considered a 2012 Republican. He put his finger to the wind, saw which way it was blowing and moved accordingly to secure his lifetime seat.
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                          • #88
                            Re: Elections 2012.2 - Congressional and Gubernatorial

                            Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
                            I'm not sure why you'd be sad about that, but keep in mind that Kennedy cut the top marginal rate to...70%. I'm not so sure he'd be seen as a republican today...but he certainly wasn't a hyper-liberal, and certainly was not as liberal as Teddy Kennedy.
                            The nominal rate was 70%, but the effective rate was still near what we pay today. The reason for this? Tax deductions. Back then, you could take deductions for rug purchases, pet parakeet feather trimmings appointments, and whatever else there might be. When Reagan cut the top marginal rate to 25% he had removed the deductions, creating only a small effective rate cut. Basically, he made the tax code simpler and we've been mucking with it ever since in the name of special interest lobbies, keeping it roughly the same while increasing the nominal top marginal rate to 36%.
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                            • #89
                              Re: Elections 2012.2 - Congressional and Gubernatorial

                              Wow. MSNBC is almost unanimously criticizing Warren for attempting to give a victory speech before Brown's concession speech. Very bizarre sight.
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                              Originally posted by SanTropez
                              May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                              Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                              I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                              Originally posted by Kepler
                              When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                              He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                              • #90
                                Re: Elections 2012.2 - Congressional and Gubernatorial

                                Looks like MD going to approve gay marriage, gambling, gerrymander, and DREAM act. How is Minnesota doing on the constitutional amendment on marriage?
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                                ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
                                - Benjamin Franklin

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