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  • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    Giving to charity is good. Being nice to the family dog is good. It doesn't affect my view of the candidate's stance on issues, though.
    How about the husband wanting the wife to be able to open windows on the plane?
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    • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

      Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
      How about the husband wanting the wife to be able to open windows on the plane?
      Believe me, there have been times when I wished my wife could open the window on her plane...
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      • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        Giving to charity is good. Being nice to the family dog is good. It doesn't affect my view of the candidate's stance on issues, though.
        I think that's the first thing you've said in this thread that makes sense.

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        • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

          Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
          I think that's the first thing you've said in this thread that makes sense.
          Just this thread?
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          • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

            Q: You say that the rich should "pay their 'fair' share." How much is that?

            -- more!

            Q: Okay, how much "more"?

            -- MORE more!!

            Q: and how much is that, exactly?

            -- MORE more more!


            Ah, yes, I see. and when you notice that some of the rich give away everything, then you say....

            -- That's not enough! we want even more than that!


            Q: so 'more' is never 'enough'?

            -- Yes, now you understand us!


            Okay, thanks for the clarification.
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            • Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
              Q: You say that the rich should "pay their 'fair' share." How much is that?

              -- more!

              Q: Okay, how much "more"?

              -- MORE more!!

              Q: and how much is that, exactly?

              -- MORE more more!


              Ah, yes, I see. and when you notice that some of the rich give away everything, then you say....

              -- That's not enough! we want even more than that!


              Q: so 'more' is never 'enough'?

              -- Yes, now you understand us!


              Okay, thanks for the clarification.
              Go back to Clinton era tax rates for all, as in the last time the budget was balanced. Yes that means more increases than for just the rich, but if you could balance it back then you can do it now.
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              • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                That's the ironic thing about the Echo Chamber's "they just want more and more" lie. Nobody has ever said that. The whole effort has been to sunset the Bush tax cuts on $250k+. All the ambiguity has been introduced by the Puppeteers to muddy the waters.

                Everybody outside their bubble realizes this; the only people fooled are the folks like FF who consume a steady diet of RNC-approved pablum. (The people who maintain their bubble for their personal profit know it too, of course. Their game since the mid 90's has always been "Deny, Divert, Deflect," since they know they don't have the ideas to win honestly.)
                Last edited by Kepler; 09-25-2012, 09:14 AM.
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                • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                  Originally posted by Rover View Post
                  Go back to Clinton era tax rates for all, as in the last time the budget was balanced. Yes that means more increases than for just the rich, but if you could balance it back then you can do it now.
                  ??? spending as % of GDP is much higher now than it was then. Even with Clinton era tax rates there still would be a huge deficit.

                  You need economic growth to increase revenues. a high percentage of a low number is not nearly as good as a moderate percentage of a large number.

                  Tax the "rich" at 100% and you still have a large deficit.
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                  • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                    Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
                    ??? spending as % of GDP is much higher now than it was then. Even with Clinton era tax rates there still would be a huge deficit.

                    You need economic growth to increase revenues. a high percentage of a low number is not nearly as good as a moderate percentage of a large number.

                    Tax the "rich" at 100% and you still have a large deficit.
                    The Echo is deafening. And don't say percentage, it's not allowed.
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                    • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      That's the ironic thing about the Echo Chamber's "they just want more and more" lie. Nobody has ever said that. The whole effort has been to sunset the Bush tax cuts on $250k+.
                      and what a wasted effort that will be once enacted.

                      is everyone on the left unable to add and subtract these days?

                      there is not enough money to balance the budget purely by increasing revenue. Multilple analyses performed many times make it so clear: if you taxed all income above $1 million you'd still have a huge budget deficit. Then what?

                      All we hear is how no spending can be cut; how we actually need to spend "invest" more....where does that money come from? the rich don't have enough to finance all the spending "investment" that's called for.

                      This question brings resounding silence whenever asked (which actually is quite refreshing before the "harrumph let's change the subject" moment arrives, as it always does, as the question continues to remain unanswered).

                      Funny how glib you are except when it matters, eh?
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                      • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                        Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
                        and what a wasted effort that will be once enacted.

                        is everyone on the left unable to add and subtract these days?

                        there is not enough money to balance the budget purely by increasing revenue. Multilple analyses performed many times make it so clear: if you taxed all income above $1 million you'd still have a huge budget deficit. Then what?

                        All we hear is how no spending can be cut; how we actually need to spend "invest" more....where does that money come from? the rich don't have enough to finance all the spending "investment" that's called for.

                        This question brings resounding silence whenever asked (which actually is quite refreshing before the "harrumph let's change the subject" moment arrives, as it always does, as the question continues to remain unanswered).

                        Funny how glib you are except when it matters, eh?
                        As soon as were done paying for the (4) HUGE unfunded things Bush did we'll get around to cutting. Obama hasn't been allowed to pass anything without at least stating some way to pay for it.

                        EDIT: Actually its 5. I forgot about the Tax Cuts.
                        Last edited by ScoobyDoo; 09-25-2012, 09:47 AM.
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                        • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          That's the ironic thing about the Echo Chamber's "they just want more and more" lie. Nobody has ever said that. The whole effort has been to sunset the Bush tax cuts on $250k+. All the ambiguity has been introduced by the Puppeteers to muddy the waters.

                          Everybody outside their bubble realizes this; the only people fooled are the folks like FF who consume a steady diet of RNC-approved pablum. (The people who maintain their bubble for their personal profit know it too, of course. Their game since the mid 90's has always been "Deny, Divert, Deflect," since they know they don't have the ideas to win honestly.)
                          Those of us who actually listen aren't fooled by a policy that truly is "trickle-down". FF is actually correct when it comes to the idea of wanting more, but you have to look a little more in-depth. The messiah dictator came up with an artificial number of 200k per person, or 125k per person if you're married, to mean you "have too much". It's true trickle-down economics by means of trickle-up poverty.

                          However, that could explain why I'm a single dude; I don't have $75,000, since that's evidently how much marriage costs.

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                          • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                            Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                            However, that could explain why I'm a single dude; I don't have $75,000, since that's evidently how much marriage costs.
                            The cost of marriage is not denominated in dollars.
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                            • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                              Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
                              is everyone on the left unable to add and subtract these days?
                              Did you not read FlagDUDE08's "Ways to Confuse a Democrat" #101? They get confused when the number's above 100, since you can't make a percentage with it.

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                              • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                                Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                                Obama hasn't been allowed to pass anything without at least stating some way to pay for it.
                                That's the most laughable thing I've seen anyone post in a long time. Simply hilarious, in a scary sort of way. Obama basically hasn't paid for any of his many new spending programs, unless you count turning up the speed on the treasury's money printing machines as paying for programs.
                                Originally posted by Priceless
                                Good to see you're so reasonable.
                                Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                                Very well, said.
                                Originally posted by Rover
                                A fair assessment Bob.

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