2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vacante

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

Preaching from the pulpit against abortion is completely, 100% appropriate. Preaching that, "Abortion is a sin, and therefore you should all go vote for John Q. UpstandingChurchGoer on Tuesday," is completely, 100% inappropriate for a tax-exempt religious organization.

I still remember a family member telling me, at the church he/she attends, that the reverend started praying during the sermon for anti-war (this was at about the time Dubya was President), and the townsfolk didn't take it too kindly. Needless to say, the minister didn't last long, and about half the congregation left with the minister for another church.

[Kepler]

Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

As usual, Obama's best ad is just quoting Romney:

[Rover]

Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

I'm noticing a lot of fluff out of the Caveman Caucus out here, but nobody's answering a simple question. Why is it okay for Mittens Romney to double down on an unfair tax code to benefit the wealthy on the backs of the rest of us? As I've said before, I'm not aware of off shore tax havens allowing you to move money over in 20 dollar increments. Yet somehow making the code even MORE unfair is sound economics? Ooooookayyyyy....

[Kepler]

Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

I'm noticing a lot of fluff out of the Caveman Caucus out here, but nobody's answering a simple question. Why is it okay for Mittens Romney to double down on an unfair tax code to benefit the wealthy on the backs of the rest of us? As I've said before, I'm not aware of off shore tax havens allowing you to move money over in 20 dollar increments. Yet somehow making the code even MORE unfair is sound economics? Ooooookayyyyy....

According to Intrade, it's not okay...

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[ScoobyDoo]

Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

I'm noticing a lot of fluff out of the Caveman Caucus out here, but nobody's answering a simple question. Why is it okay for Mittens Romney to double down on an unfair tax code to benefit the wealthy on the backs of the rest of us? As I've said before, I'm not aware of off shore tax havens allowing you to move money over in 20 dollar increments. Yet somehow making the code even MORE unfair is sound economics? Ooooookayyyyy....

Rich people don't pay taxes.

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

According to Intrade, it's not okay...

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Just remember that in October of 1980, Carter was leading by 8 points.

Those polls are about as meaningful as KRACH ratings.

[Rover]

Just remember that in October of 1980, Carter was leading by 8 points.

Those polls are about as meaningful as KRACH ratings.

We've already dispatched with your knuckledragger wet dream of Reagan actually being down in that race hence it being a model for the Mittwit. Try to keep up, will ya?

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

We've already dispatched with your knuckledragger wet dream of Reagan actually being down in that race hence it being a model for the Mittwit. Try to keep up, will ya?

I've already dispatched with your libstain wet dream of anyone who is not voting for Obama is voting for Romney. Try to keep up, will ya?

[Rover]

I've already dispatched with your libstain wet dream of anyone who is not voting for Obama is voting for Romney. Try to keep up, will ya?

Yup Flagg, totally believe you. Every conservative is an "independent" as soon as Romney's poll numbers go down.

[geezer]

Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

Yup Flagg, totally believe you. Every conservative is an "independent" as soon as Romney's poll numbers go down.

You're mixing up the cause and effect.

[FreshFish]

Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

One of the biggest disappointments that happens over and over again occurs when there is already a long-standing consensus that "Thing A" be done, yet people continue to argue whether it "should be" done anyway...meanwhile, the essential debate is not "whether" but "how much."

One glaring example of this mismatch between situation and debate is over redistribution of wealth. There's been a wealth tax in the US off and on since 1797, and a permanent wealth tax since 1916. One component of this wealth tax is explicity about redistribution, and it has worked spectacularly well. As a matter of fact, even when this tax was not in existence, wealthy people voluntarily embraced its re-distributionist spirit anyway.

Despite having an explicitly redistributionist tax that has been extremely successful in application, we are still having a debate about whether the "rich" pay their "fair share" absent any grounding in a broader context or examining those claims in the light of sensible economic policy.

The biggest error in thinking is equating a high annual income with wealth. Income is merely one year's cash flow; while wealth is accumulated on one's balance sheet over time.

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

One of the biggest disappointments that happens over and over again occurs when there is already a long-standing consensus that "Thing A" be done, yet people continue to argue whether it "should be" done anyway...meanwhile, the essential debate is not "whether" but "how much."

One glaring example of this mismatch between situation and debate is over redistribution of wealth. There's been a wealth tax in the US off and on since 1797, and a permanent wealth tax since 1916. One component of this wealth tax is explicity about redistribution, and it has worked spectacularly well. As a matter of fact, even when this tax was not in existence, wealthy people voluntarily embraced its re-distributionist spirit anyway.

Despite having an explicitly redistributionist tax that has been extremely successful in application, we are still having a debate about whether the "rich" pay their "fair share" absent any grounding in a broader context or examining those claims in the light of sensible economic policy.

The biggest error in thinking is equating a high annual income with wealth. Income is merely one year's cash flow; while wealth is accumulated on one's balance sheet over time.

Mitt Romney only paid 13% and you guys are still going ape over us calling him out on it? Really?

When Mitt's percentage is lower than mine, then and only then will I believe all this drivel you keep posting.

[Kepler]

Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

Heard a pollster on POTUS this morning talking about how Ryan being introduced to the public via his attack dog role may hurt him "when he runs for president in 2016."

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

Heard a pollster on POTUS this morning talking about how Ryan being introduced to the public via his attack dog role may hurt him "when he runs for president in 2016."

He's done running for President and winning if loses this year. The history on the subject is clear.

[Kepler]

Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

He's done running for President and winning if loses this year. The history on the subject is clear.

If you're scoring at home, it does look pretty bleak if you're the losing VP nominee.

Losing VPs who went on to be president:

1920 FDR
1836 Tyler

Period. Full stop.