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  • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

    Originally posted by Rover View Post
    Most Republicans aren't racist, but most racists are Republicans. As Kep noted, the GOP has for too long encouraged these idiots in order to win their votes. That's great up until they start taking out your own candidates and costing you in key elections. You reap what you sow I guess.

    PS: Given Obama's inevitable victory this year, you'd really better get to work on finding that Kenyan birth certificate. I'd suggest booking your flight now to get a jump on all the other nutjobs, and make sure you tell Bob Gray's sheriff "hi" when you see him over there.
    Still trying to cover up your party's racists, especially the outspoken ones that are never called out in the MSM?

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    • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      The biggest change in the GOP over the last 30 years has been the takeover of the actual party apparatus by the radical fringe. There were always these types on the right -- the John Birchers et al. But the adults always kept them in check. As the party has shrunk to a regional, racial, religious sect, the adults have left. The rump is all that's left, and it's now actually making the rules.
      You can say the same thing about the Demoncrats. I blame the gerrymander.
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      • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

        Originally posted by Rover View Post
        the GOP has for too long encouraged these idiots in order to win their votes. That's great up until they start taking out your own candidates and costing you in key elections. You reap what you sow I guess.
        Correct.

        The all-whiteness of the Republican party doesn't mean the party is racist, but it does mean that there are enclaves of racists who are quite comfortable being Republicans. That's normal for any association that is basically tribal. The GOP is no longer really a political party, it's midway between a Water Buffalo Lodge and a church congregation, and it gives its members a shared identity. Part of that identity is rallying to the defense of any member who is criticized from the outside. The flip side is that any member who is criticized will cry out to his brothers that any criticism of him is an attack on them all. This works especially well since the association as it now stands is doomed demographically and it has a victim complex a mile wide.
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        • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

          Originally posted by joecct View Post
          You can say the same thing about the Demoncrats. I blame the gerrymander.
          I agree with you on the gerrymander, but I disagree with you completely about the national Democratic party. Local party associations definitely fall into this trap. A local meeting of the Brooklyn Democratic party is just as full of nutbars as the RNC was. The thing that is weird is that the idiocies of local politics now infect the Republicans at the national level. The reason seems to be that the GOP is now so homogeneous that it doesn't have to engage in any sort of internal coalition building. That coalition building is where the crazy gets rooted out.

          The one thing that this does gain for the Republicans is focus -- they ought to be able to deliver a laser beam message that is substantive and sincere, whether you agree with it or not. In an environment where gridlock and inaction are such a problem that should appeal to a lot of people who don't really care about politics but want "something to be done." That ought to be a tremendous advantage for the Republicans. That they can't convey it seems to be a pure accident of who they nominated. Pretty much anybody else would have been a spearhead, while Romney is just a wilted flower stem.
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          • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

            politicians are psycho. Of course, we all knew that.
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            • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

              The Republican party has more fundamental problems than just a bunch of kooks growing in stature within their ranks. Simply put its the most unpopular political party in the recorded history of polling in this country. Even people who vote for them don't do so because they like what they stand for.

              I'm amused as pundit after pundit has to walk back their "Romney's inevitable victory" schtick as we get closer to election day but he can't get out of the mid 40's despite negative economic news. What they don't get is the GOP brand is fatal in a national election. Most people's recollection of a Republican President isn't Reagan, a man elected 32 years ago. Its Bush II. On the flip side, voters remember Clinton far better than Carter, who's Presidency you'd have to be nearing 50 to be able to recall in its entirety.

              So pick the issue. Tax cuts for the rich. Privatizing Medicare or Social Security. Overturning Roe v Wade. Reinstating DADT. The Iraq War. On issue after issue the public disagrees overwhelming with their positions. That's not a recipe for electoral success. These issues may play well in certain states or regions, but nationaly its a recipe for disaster.
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              • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                Originally posted by geezer View Post
                politicians are psycho. Of course, we all knew that.
                Great photo selection.

                The internal drive to hyper-succeed in anything, from government to business to science to the arts, probably indicates creepy psychological problems. The timeless joke is wanting to be president should disqualify the candidate.
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                • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                  Originally posted by Rover View Post
                  Most people's recollection of a Republican President isn't Reagan, a man elected 32 years ago. Its Bush II. On the flip side, voters remember Clinton far better than Carter
                  This is probably of the greatest impact of all. Reagan is now nearly as distant as FDR was at the time of Carter's election in 1976, and yet the Republicans still try to invoke him as a magic amulet. Worse for them, since Reagan there is no positive Republican in the public mind. It's a desert.
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                  • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    The all-whiteness of the Republican party
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                    • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                      As a member of the middle class, I had no idea I was doing so well!

                      http://www.boston.com/news/politics/...DRP/story.html


                      He's so incredibly bad at this. How is he even getting 45%?

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                      • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                        Originally posted by Gurtholfin View Post
                        As a member of the middle class, I had no idea I was doing so well!

                        http://www.boston.com/news/politics/...DRP/story.html


                        He's so incredibly bad at this. How is he even getting 45%?
                        Look no further than USCHO conservatives for your answer to that!
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                        • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                          Originally posted by Rover View Post
                          Look no further than USCHO conservatives for your answer to that!
                          To be fair to them, I don't think there is a single USCHO Republican who is voting for Romney, rather than against Obama.
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                          • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            To be fair to them, I don't think there is a single USCHO Republican who is voting for Romney, rather than against Obama.
                            Pretty much this. I asked someone who Obama's opponent and they said "not Obama."

                            That wasn't even the worst i heard. Someone actually said the Fuhrer would be better. Shudder.
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                            • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                              Originally posted by MountieBoyOz View Post
                              Pretty much this. I asked someone who Obama's opponent and they said "not Obama."

                              That wasn't even the worst i heard. Someone actually said the Fuhrer would be better. Shudder.
                              There isn't much difference between Obama and the Führer.

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                              • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                                Originally posted by Rover View Post
                                Look no further than USCHO conservatives for your answer to that!
                                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                To be fair to them, I don't think there is a single USCHO Republican who is voting for Romney, rather than against Obama.
                                Originally posted by MountieBoyOz View Post
                                Pretty much this. I asked someone who Obama's opponent and they said "not Obama."

                                That wasn't even the worst i heard. Someone actually said the Fuhrer would be better. Shudder.


                                I get that. But where is the point of diminishing returns?

                                At some point, the "anybody" is incompetent and this is a fairly important job we're talking about here.

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