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  • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

    Romney's latest health care plan sounds like a shortcut to single payer as every insurance provider will be out of business within 5 years.
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    • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

      "Mitt" Romney will be the first major party candidate to get less than 20% of the vote. He just might get beat by a write in. Which would actually be a good thing for conservatism in general.
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      • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

        Originally posted by geezer View Post
        "Mitt" Romney will be the first major party candidate to get less than 20% of the vote. He just might get beat by a write in. Which would actually be a good thing for conservatism in general.
        I still cannot for the life of me figure out how he won the primary. Besides his love of "rich" he holds none of conservative values cherished by the GOP. Except maybe war.
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        • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
          I still cannot for the life of me figure out how he won the primary. Besides his love of "rich" he holds none of conservative values cherished by the GOP. Except maybe war.
          Reputation. Pundits said that, when he dropped out in 2008, he made some of the most conservative comments ever as the RINO John McCain was pushed to the top.

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          • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

            Originally posted by geezer View Post
            "Mitt" Romney will be the first major party candidate to get less than 20% of the vote. He just might get beat by a write in. Which would actually be a good thing for conservatism in general.
            It would be, but he's going to get the same 48% every losing candidate does with this electorate, and the GOP is going to conclude they need to run somebody with even farther right proposals. Too bad Robert Welch Jr. is dead.
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              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              It would be, but he's going to get the same 48% every losing candidate does with this electorate, and the GOP is going to conclude they need to run somebody with even farther right proposals. Too bad Robert Welch Jr. is dead.
              They do need to run somebody like that. That's their values. There has to be some old guard pulling the strings at the GOP making sure they nominate someone who can actually win and protect all the cash and war. That's the only explanation for McCain and Romney.
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                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                It would be, but he's going to get the same 48% every losing candidate does with this electorate, and the GOP is going to conclude they need to run somebody with even farther right proposals. Too bad Robert Welch Jr. is dead.
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                I do agree that the party will simply label Mittens as "too liberal" if he loses this election and simply nominate someone even further to the right. Who that is I have no idea, but those pining for a Chris Christie-Condi Rice ticket are going to be sorely disappointed. More like a Todd Akin type.
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                • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                  Originally posted by Rover View Post
                  Perry-Bachmann 2016 Baby!!!

                  I do agree that the party will simply label Mittens as "too liberal" if he loses this election and simply nominate someone even further to the right. Who that is I have no idea, but those pining for a Chris Christie-Condi Rice ticket are going to be sorely disappointed. More like a Todd Akin type.
                  Jeb can be the Great Unifier. He can cozen whatever's left of the Tea Party because they are still clutching their Dubya Jesus dolls, the Neo-cons recognize him as a fellow PNACer, and of course he will appeal to the Corporate Cons because that's the heart and soul of his family all the way back to Samuel Prescott and all his Wall Street swindler friends. It will also be long enough for the public to forget that his brother put our country through hell.

                  Fiscal cons had better pray that Obama does bring down the deficit, because Jeb will just explode it again on another round of corporate welfare.
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                  • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    Jeb can be the Great Unifier.
                    Barf. Bush I couldn't get reelected. Bush II destroyed the country. Now we're going Bush III?
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                    • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                      Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                      Barf. Bush I couldn't get reelected. Bush II destroyed the country. Now we're going Bush III?
                      Have you met your fellow voters?

                      He has a herpa-derp accent so that's a floor of 48%. Throw in his money, his pals' money, the national exhaustion that usually follows an 8-year hold on the WH, and the apparent lack of a serious heir to Obama, and I'd give him even money today.
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                      • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                        Obama tops 80% in the 538 Chance of Winning algortihm. The predicted EV right now is 320-220, with popular vote 52-47.

                        VA is now listed as 77% chance for Obama.
                        FL 67% Obama.
                        CO 76% Obama.
                        NV 86% Obama.
                        OH 75% Obama.
                        IA 76% Obama.
                        CO 76% Obama.
                        NH 86% Obama.
                        NC 57% Romney.

                        Obama also outraised Romney in August, $114M - $112M.
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                        • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          Obama tops 80% in the 538 Chance of Winning algortihm. The predicted EV right now is 320-220, with popular vote 52-47.

                          VA is now listed as 77% chance for Obama.
                          FL 67% Obama.
                          CO 76% Obama.
                          NV 86% Obama.
                          OH 75% Obama.
                          IA 76% Obama.
                          CO 76% Obama.
                          NH 86% Obama.
                          NC 57% Romney.

                          Obama also outraised Romney in August, $114M - $112M.
                          And Romney went on the National Talk Shows with Ryan and 1. Praised Obamacare, and 2. Had no details whatsoever on his proposed new tax policy.

                          He's a bumbling idiot.
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                          • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                            Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                            Barf. Bush I couldn't get reelected. Bush II destroyed the country. Now we're going Bush III?
                            Agreed. Bush's Brother + Liberal comments on immigration = Doom. Jeb could very well have been a better Prez than his bro, but we tried Bush nostaglia already and it was a total disaster.

                            Again assuming no Romney this year Ryan-Rubio makes the most sense. GOP needs to get younger, more diverse, and compete in the Rust Belt while nailing down Florida.
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                            • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                              Originally posted by Rover View Post
                              Agreed. Bush's Brother + Liberal comments on immigration = Doom. Jeb could very well have been a better Prez than his bro, but we tried Bush nostaglia already and it was a total disaster.
                              No matter who they run the GOP must pivot on immigration. It has always been their long-term strategy to drive a wedge into Hispanic support using religious conservatism. 2012 is the last time they will be able to run an angry old white male election. They can't close the gender gap because of their Biblical misogyny, so they will get younger and browner in a big hurry.
                              Last edited by Kepler; 09-10-2012, 11:04 AM.
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                              • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                No matter who they run the GOP must pivot on immigration.
                                Pivot? You mean 180.

                                This election cycle was supposed to be a referendum on Obama. Obama managed to change it to a choice election. Since becoming a choice election Romney has decided he likes the other guys choices better except when it comes to war.

                                What the hell is going on?
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