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  • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

    Anyone find it amusing that the hurricane affected both conventions?
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      • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

        Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
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        ...and Romney?

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        • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

          Originally posted by manurespreader View Post
          I wonder honestly, if I buy a product with govt money, why is that money not the same as if I buy the same product with my own money. can someone enlighten me?

          Because the government borrowed* that money before it gave it to you and so it has to be paid back with interest. If you used your own money then you did not incur any debt on behalf of the rest of us.




          * or with Printing Press Ben running the Fed, they just printed more of it; devaluing purchasing power for everyone, which again does not happen when you use your own money.
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          • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

            Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
            ...and Romney?

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            Campaign stop in North Dakota?

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            • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

              Originally posted by duper View Post
              I suspect that only someone who is dead set against the dems in the first place actually believes that they booed God.
              Technically, you are correct. The convention clearly voted "nay" three times (watch the video yourself) on a motion to include the word "God" once in their platform. The chair proclaimed that the 'aye' vote carried, anyway. So technically they were booing a fraudulent vote count.




              PS one of the television cameras had a picture of the teleprompter telling the chair what to say for the result of the vote, which suggests that the actual vote may not have mattered; the result was pre-determined.
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              • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                Saw a decent analysis in Politico that dovetailed somewhat with what Rove has been saying. In the article an alleged private conversation with Mittens operatives revealed that they expected to have Florida in the bag by now and are doing much worse in Ohio. Rove has a 3,2,1 strategy which is for Romney to first put FL, VA, and NC out of play before moving onto Ohio and I forget the other one (maybe MI). Under that scenario he'd only have to win one of the remaining swing states of CO, NV, etc to win the election.

                Problem is, he has none of these states nailed down yet, even NC where he just launched a new ad buy.
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                • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                  The 3-2-1 I remember was

                  Indiana (check), North Carolina (check), Virginia
                  Ohio, Florida
                  Pick any

                  As far as Virginia goes, does anyone else remember how Romney ran that primary on the cheap because he only faced Paul and left the state with one office? Got to think he's regretting that now.
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                  • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                    I can't believe Romney's campaign thought FL would be "in the bag" at any stage. It was always set up to be a battle of attrition.

                    I thing it's more likely that they believed (and still do) that they can use FL to leverage their money advantage. They can control the Dems' spending by pouring money in. If the Dems don't take the bait that's an enormous state to bank. If the Dems do, then the RNC and Romney can cream them in ad buys in the other battlegrounds.
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                    • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                      True. Assuming you'd have Florida won in early September is Mark Penn level stupidity.
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                      • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                        In case anybody wondered what a bounce looks like: this is what a bounce looks like.

                        12 points.

                        I fearlessly predict that it will be completely gone by 9/15.
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                        • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          I can't believe Romney's campaign thought FL would be "in the bag" at any stage. It was always set up to be a battle of attrition.

                          I thing it's more likely that they believed (and still do) that they can use FL to leverage their money advantage. They can control the Dems' spending by pouring money in. If the Dems don't take the bait that's an enormous state to bank. If the Dems do, then the RNC and Romney can cream them in ad buys in the other battlegrounds.
                          Kep there's no "taking the bait" consideration here. Either Romney wins Florida or he has no prayer of getting elected. He doesn't have the luxury of faking a Florida play merely to draw Obama cash there. He desperately needs to win that state above all others even Ohio.

                          From the article I read the thought was that they'd be up in Florida by this point. Putting it away IMO is more like what happened in 2004, where there was some talk of Kerry making a play but come November it was off the board. Mittens needs NC and FL off the board going into election day or otherwise he's bleeding in too many different places to save his campaign.
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                          • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            In case anybody wondered what a bounce looks like: this is what a bounce looks like.

                            12 points.

                            I fearlessly predict that it will be completely gone by 9/15.
                            wrong link, perhaps?
                            I'm not seeing any bounces there or on RCP.
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                            • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                              Originally posted by geezer View Post
                              wrong link, perhaps?
                              I'm not seeing any bounces there or on RCP.
                              His approval disapproval was 45+/-48 at the convention start. It's +52/-43 after it ended.
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                              • Re: 2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vaca

                                Originally posted by geezer View Post
                                wrong link, perhaps?
                                I'm not seeing any bounces there or on RCP.
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                                Gallup Poll. Rolling average. N=approx. 1,500 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 3.
                                 
                                "Do you approve or disapprove of the way Barack Obama is handling his job as president?"
                                
                                 	 	Approve 	Disapprove 	Margin
                                9/4-6/12  	52 	 	43  	 	+9
                                9/3-5/12  	49 	 	45  	 	+4
                                9/2-4/12  	47 	 	47  	 	even
                                9/1-3/12  	45 	 	48  	 	-3
                                Last edited by Kepler; 09-07-2012, 01:46 PM.
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