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  • #196
    Re: Convention junkies can obsess details here!

    Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
    I thought the night was not great but quite good for the dems.
    I thought it was as "great" a night as you're going to get when you have about 30 speakers. It's probably much less mind-numbing for the 99.9% of the public who will only ever see a couple ten second soundbites on the news the next day, but even for a political junky listening to the assistant dog catcher from West Bumblefuck Georgia talk about the time his aunt mixed up the hot sauce and the marzipan is a tough, tough sell.
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    • #197
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      Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
      I have heard that. But, I also heard that Romney had total control over the content of his speech and wrote most of it himself. And it showed.
      I seriously doubt Romney wrote his speech. Even though it was lame and generic and bland and he's lame and generic and bland, I doubt the guy has ever done anything as strenuous as using MS Word in his lifetime. He has people for that.
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      • #198
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        Good news for those of you caught in the dilemma of having to choose betweent he Democratic National Convention and the MTV VMA show:

        MTV to move up the VMAs 1 hour so they don't conflect with President Obama's acceptance speech!

        Whew! I was worried there for a bit!

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        • #199
          Re: Convention junkies can obsess details here!

          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
          I thought it was as "great" a night as you're going to get when you have about 30 speakers. It's probably much less mind-numbing for the 99.9% of the public who will only ever see a couple ten second soundbites on the news the next day, but even for a political junky listening to the assistant dog catcher from West Bumblefuck Georgia talk about the time his aunt mixed up the hot sauce and the marzipan is a tough, tough sell.
          I thought the speaking was great. The topical content was just short. I thought the night was a bit heavy on social issues...eg abortion. Although Duckworth was outstanding, there were a bit too many call outs to the military and not enough to shoring up business and economic issues. You definitely know what the party stands for...we still have no idea what the GOP wants to do.

          But all in all, these are just picks.
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          • #200
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            The economic points they brought up made sense given that the convention for an incumbent is about stressing the positive difference between the incumbent's record and the opposition's plan. So we got Rust Belters reminding the voters about saving the auto industry (also a natural for "contrast," given Romney's editorial about letting it fail), and lots of mentions of 29 straight months of economic growth. They can't push too hard on economics or they are open to the charge of not caring about people who are still unemployed, or of being out of touch with the real economy -- Bush Senior is a cautionary tale.

            The whole breathless "will Bill go off the reservation?" story seems obviously ginned up to create buzz (probably by Bill himself). It is kinda funny they stuck him opposite the NFL season opener, though. Just a little reminder that the Obama camp has no illusions about the Clintons. Even when they are useful, it is vital to remember they are not your friend.
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            • #201
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              Originally posted by Scarlet View Post
              Good news for those of you caught in the dilemma of having to choose betweent he Democratic National Convention and the MTV VMA show:

              MTV to move up the VMAs 1 hour so they don't conflect with President Obama's acceptance speech!

              Whew! I was worried there for a bit!
              Clearly MTV is in league with those trying to re-elect his Pander-racist-socialist-muslim-ness. I don't know how the libstains live with themselves in the face of such collusion.

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              • #202
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                Originally posted by Gurtholfin View Post
                Clearly MTV is in league with those trying to re-elect his Pander-racist-socialist-muslim-ness. I don't know how the libstains live with themselves in the face of such collusion.
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                • #203
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                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
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                  • #204
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                    Andrew Cuomo threw his tiara and went home -- I guess he wanted to be a speaker.
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                    • #205
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                      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      The economic points they brought up made sense given that the convention for an incumbent is about stressing the positive difference between the incumbent's record and the opposition's plan. So we got Rust Belters reminding the voters about saving the auto industry (also a natural for "contrast," given Romney's editorial about letting it fail), and lots of mentions of 29 straight months of economic growth. They can't push too hard on economics or they are open to the charge of not caring about people who are still unemployed, or of being out of touch with the real economy -- Bush Senior is a cautionary tale.

                      The whole breathless "will Bill go off the reservation?" story seems obviously ginned up to create buzz (probably by Bill himself). It is kinda funny they stuck him opposite the NFL season opener, though. Just a little reminder that the Obama camp has no illusions about the Clintons. Even when they are useful, it is vital to remember they are not your friend.
                      As others have pointed out, Slick has to walk a very fine tighrope. He has to dim his own bulb while making El Presidente the Messiah. If he wants to play naughty he says something like "the last time America had a balanced budget was under a Democratic administration!" The people will cheer and El Presidente will be loading the sniper rifle.
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                      • #206
                        Re: Convention junkies can obsess details here!

                        Originally posted by joecct View Post
                        As others have pointed out, Slick has to walk a very fine tighrope. He has to dim his own bulb while making El Presidente the Messiah. If he wants to play naughty he says something like "the last time America had a balanced budget was under a Democratic administration!" The people will cheer and El Presidente will be loading the sniper rifle.
                        That would actually be a really funny line. (It would also be the kind of self-serving thing the Clintons seem to have a irrepressible need to do).

                        I think this is Bill wanting to have Just One More Turn in front of a huge, fawning crowd. Banging Near Abroad stewardesses three at a time in the champagne room at the Clinton Foundation probably gets boring after a few years.

                        Speaking of huge, fawning crowds, Obama's just got a lot smaller.
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                        • #207
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                          Liz Warren is way too intense to be a public official. She's right, but she's '80's style hectoring right. It doesn't sell.
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                          • #208
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                            Dear God... This is one of the worst speeches I've seen.
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                            • #209
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                              Love how people on Facebook are complaining about the DNC getting coverage during halftime. People would rather watch Honey Boo Boo and football over watching conventions. No wonder this country is going to hell in a handbasket.
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                              • #210
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                                Clinton's speech is great. It's also a bit depressing because from the standpoint of content and intellect it reminds us of what political speech was as recently as the late 90's.
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