Convention junkies can obsess details here!

[Kepler]

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bread and circuses??

Everything I want is A Vital National Interest.

Everything you want is pandering.

[SJHovey]

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The most impressive part of Clinton's speech was how he successfully staked a claim for the political center by listing his accomplishments working with Republicans. Didn't hurt he subtly was able to fold Eisenhower, Reagan, and possibly a few other Republicans (there was a football game on and it was a long speech so I was clicking) into the speech.

While Clinton's speech rallied the troops is was most definitely aimed at the undecided. He really can give a hell of a speech.

Is it a successful speech if he leaves those in the hall, or watching on tv wishing he was the nominee?

[joecct]

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So free birth control is just another pander tactic?

bread and circuses??

[LynahFan]

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Need to keep in mind the goals. It had less to do with her message and more to targeting young women. I have little doubt that 20 something women are at the top of the list for dems.

So free birth control is just another pander tactic?

[5mn_Major]

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What? Sandra Fluke had a prime-time speaking slot last night? what more does she have to say about why someone who can afford to go to Georgetown Law School can't afford $9 / month for birth control pills so that she has to pout about forcing her insurance company to pay for them?

Need to keep in mind the goals. It had less to do with her message and more to targeting young women. I have little doubt that 20 something women are at the top of the list for dems.

[Kepler]

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Hang around long enough to kick Rush into a coma for picking on a 12 year old girl, then get out.

I'm sure she could not care less about that doddering Has Been.

[FreshFish]

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What? Sandra Fluke had a prime-time speaking slot last night? what more does she have to say about why someone who can afford to go to Georgetown Law School can't afford $9 / month for birth control pills so that she has to pout about forcing her insurance company to pay for them?

[bronconick]

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It doesn't hurt Chelsea, either.

(I would advise her to stay out of that snake pit. She seems like a perfectly reasonable and nice person. Don't chase that dragon, kid.)

Hang around long enough to kick Rush into a coma for picking on a 12 year old girl, then get out.

[Kepler]

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I think Bill did himself as many favors last night as Obama. It will continue to enhance what is turning to be Bill's very strong legacy.

It doesn't hurt Chelsea, either.

(I would advise her to stay out of that snake pit. She seems like a perfectly reasonable and nice person. Don't chase that dragon, kid.)

[Handyman]

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"Losers give excuses. Winners go fuck the homecoming queen."

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I prefer it the way Connery said it:

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[5mn_Major]

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Good speech by the old boy. I too had the same feeling, which is that Clinton should be serving his 5th term right now! Amazing how he can go double his allotted time and nobody cares.

I have noticed a total difference in themes though. The GOP convention was about returning to a past time. Retrying policies that had already been tried before, or bringing social issues back to an earlier era. Maybe that's a winner. We'll find out soon enough. The Dem convention was a lot more about where we're going in the future. Interesting difference.

I think Bill did himself as many favors last night as Obama. It will continue to enhance what is turning to be Bill's very strong legacy.

[Kepler]

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Pretty funny coming from proponents of the party that's yearning for the good old days of the Peace Dividend and the Dot Com Boom Bubble...

"Losers give excuses. Winners go fuck the homecoming queen."

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[LynahFan]

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Nostalgia is the yearning for a Golden Age that "always is and never was." Life was simple when we were children and so we view the past with sepia tones and think it was better. It wasn't. It has always been hard to be an adult. If you actually go back and read what people were saying and doing at any given time life has always been hard. The "innocent time" the GOP hankers for was one where people were terrified every day the world was going to end in nuclear apocalypse, racism was virulent, and gays and women were mocked if they ever stepped out of their assigned social roles. Screw that -- I'd rather try to make the real world better than try and crawl back into a fictional womb.

Pretty funny coming from proponents of the party that's yearning for the good old days of the Peace Dividend and the Dot Com Boom Bubble...

[FlagDUDE08]

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That's not a "blame Republicans" argument. Clearly shows that you're only hearing the talking points.

The Republican governors were working WITH Obama to come up with a solution that they think (and can prove) is more effective.

Polly want a cracker?

Scooby said to answer my question of "Then why, when you are on unemployment, are you no longer required to submit proof of submitting two job application forms each week, whether paper or electronic?", and I quote: "Those exceptions were asked for by Republican Governors. You'll have to ask them." Also, Scooby mentioned in the article he quoted that there is a provision that these states must increase their work force. Where is the proof of that? Calling out a specific party for purposes of branding is just plain sickening.

Look, I don't hold water for anyone who claims to be part of a specific party. If they do something stupid, I'll call them out on it. All of these governors, regardless of party, did something stupid by trying to legislate against human nature. Any human is only going to do work out of one of two reasons: necessity (i.e. don't work don't eat), or self pride. The second does not happen with high probability, and even then, it typically is provoked by another desire to make yourself textbook-worthy (e.g. the Buffett rule). If someone doesn't have to work and receives what equates to them as being a free lunch, of course they're going to take it. If you don't have to actually look for work in order to receive unemployment benefits, then why would you?

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Which specific cabinet members or governors (if unemployment insurance truly is a state issue, fund provision bullying does not constitute a state issue) were directly involved in these exceptions? Your "Blame Republicans" rhetoric has been a broken record for the past few years.

That's not a "blame Republicans" argument. Clearly shows that you're only hearing the talking points.

The Republican governors were working WITH Obama to come up with a solution that they think (and can prove) is more effective.

Polly want a cracker?