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    I just can't see myself ever buying German. The reliability just isn't there for the upfront cost and the cost to repair.
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    Originally posted by SanTropez
    May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
    Originally posted by bigblue_dl
    I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
    Originally posted by Kepler
    When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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    • Re: Obama XXIV: Forward ... pause ... rewind ... play

      Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
      Totally OT:

      I assume you're limiting the eval to sedans, because frankly I'm surprised by that statement. Sheer "driveability"-wise, most know that BMW, Audi, and Porsche are traditionally the gold standard, but I would not expect any of those luxury/performance vehicles to do well in regular snow & ice conditions, as I always assumed they were built with average weather in mind.
      My 911 with that engine sitting over the wheels has been just fantastic on mountain roads in snow, ice, and heavy rain. But you are correct i would not take that low clearance out in deep stuff. Our Audis have just been unbeatable in all weather conditions (with Jen's A4 being the best). Most of our bad condition driving is either here in NJ or getting around the Adirondacks from our hojme up there. I am no car expert but they have something special in their AWD system and the cars just handle in bad conditions the best. However-for deep snow and getting around in the last 36 inch blizzard we did use the Lincoln Navigator. Our worst handling cars in bad weather? Jen's big Mercedes S500 was all over the road and hard to keep on course. Our experience with BMW is tainted since we did not have the X Drive system in our big sedan. The car was horrible in snow and ice. Way back in the dark ages of 1972 I had a SAAB 900E with free wheeling (you only clutched and shifted into first and reverse) which was super in the snow but was probably the quirkiest and most unreliable car I ever owned.
      Considering our entire list of cars-the most reliable was without doubt the Porsches. The worst was the SAAB followed closely by my Chevy Suburban (but i think we just had a lemon in that case). Again-no expertise with cars and just reporting our experiences with the long list we have owned.
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        A 911... In the snow?
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        Originally posted by SanTropez
        May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
        Originally posted by bigblue_dl
        I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
        Originally posted by Kepler
        When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
        He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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          Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
          I would never take a German auto for poor-weather driving - at least MN style. Cripes you'd think Volvo or Saab would do well also but they just don't cut the mustard. Sorry but give me American or Japanese in the winter every time and I bet of the best non-truck performers in the winter you'd be hard pressed to find more than one from Europe rated.
          Amen to that one. With the Adirondacks, I figured out quickly enough that a SUV with 4WD (read: NOT AWD) is the way to go. AWD only works on pavement.

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            Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
            A 911... In the snow?
            i have found that driving in the snow is all indian, regardless of the arrow.
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              http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2012/08/196631.htm

              All I can think of when I read this is, "Man, this is probably the first and last time we see the Department of State use the terms 'pussy' and 'riot' in the same press release."
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              Originally posted by SanTropez
              May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
              Originally posted by bigblue_dl
              I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
              Originally posted by Kepler
              When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
              He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                A 911... In the snow?
                When the roads are dry-we go from Blue Mt Lake to Indian Lake (11.2 miles) in 8 minutes. When it is rainy or light snow-about 25 minutes. Both in a 911 Targa(absolutely love that car). Traction is phenomenal with Pirelli P7 tires. But that is not an easy car to learn to drive as it is very unforgiving. On those mountain roads you can with most cars back off the gas and stay on course. With a 911, you make a mistake, and they read about it in the local papers the next day.
                Take the shortest distance to the puck and arrive in ill humor

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                  You can drive a 911 in snow, but you can't tell me it does well. If you say that with a straight face, it means you haven't driven a car that's actually good in the snow or you haven't driven it in actual snow.. I don't care if it costs as much as I make in a year.

                  Agreed on the last part.
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                  Originally posted by SanTropez
                  May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                  Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                  I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                  Originally posted by Kepler
                  When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                  He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                    Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                    I would never take a German auto for poor-weather driving - at least MN style. Cripes you'd think Volvo or Saab would do well also but they just don't cut the mustard. Sorry but give me American or Japanese in the winter every time and I bet of the best non-truck performers in the winter you'd be hard pressed to find more than one from Europe rated.
                    Sounds like you did Audi during the 90s when it was the sleepwalker of the industry. Great corporate potential...but the car kind of blew.

                    As Dr Dem says, the 2000s really saw them put their act together (they've been rated car of the year). It is a really great piece of driving. And absolutely in snow. Their centerpiece is the Quattro...which is AWD innovation. In raging ice blizzards, have driven mine up straight up Davern from 7th into St Paul's Highland Park...didn't hesitate when other cars didn't have a chance. Not too much, but one of the consistently steeper, climbs in the cities. I'd put the problems more expensive but somewhat fewer in number than American. Japanese reliability is unsurpassed.
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                      Well Dr D interesting about German cars in the snow doing well but you also say that the Mercedes was awful. so, it's not German?
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                        Originally posted by manurespreader View Post
                        Well Dr D interesting about German cars in the snow doing well but you also say that the Mercedes was awful. so, it's not German?
                        It brings down the average.

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                        • Re: Obama XXIV: Forward ... pause ... rewind ... play

                          Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                          You can drive a 911 in snow, but you can't tell me it does well. If you say that with a straight face, it means you haven't driven a car that's actually good in the snow or you haven't driven it in actual snow.. I don't care if it costs as much as I make in a year.

                          Agreed on the last part.
                          Never said it was my choice car for snow. But never had a problem with it. Of course when the weather is bad we use one of our other cars-but we have been caught in some horrible weather on trips with it-and i have never had difficulty. Perhaps because ours has AWD? But given the choice for bad weather driving-we pick on eof our Audis all the time.
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                            Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                            Sounds like you did Audi during the 90s when it was the sleepwalker of the industry. Great corporate potential...but the car kind of blew.

                            As Dr Dem says, the 2000s really saw them put their act together (they've been rated car of the year). It is a really great piece of driving. And absolutely in snow. Their centerpiece is the Quattro...which is AWD innovation. In raging ice blizzards, have driven mine up straight up Davern from 7th into St Paul's Highland Park...didn't hesitate when other cars didn't have a chance. Not too much, but one of the consistently steeper, climbs in the cities. I'd put the problems more expensive but somewhat fewer in number than American. Japanese reliability is unsurpassed.
                            We have had several Audis-1996 A4 was incredibly well made and reliable. Also fun to drive as it is a stick. A 1999 A6 Avant wagon was practical and elegant with all the toys-but not nearly as reliable with several episodes of electronic troubles. Never got stuck with it-always able to get it home or to the dealer-but still a few times it just has been problematic. The new A6-just far and above anything i have ever driven. Technologically superb. Safety features, options and toys, comfort just top notch. Love the night vision, the heads up display, the adaptive cruise control, the side assist, the navigation system and MMI display, comfortable seats-and being able to go 0-60 in a tad under 5 secs with their 310HP supercharged engine is a blast. Do not own it long enough to be able to talk about reliability but it has been flawless so far. Our experience with climbing hills in snow is similar to yours-Troy has never been known to clear the streets well and we have always been able to get up the steep hills to the RPI fieldouse iwhtout any problem. As I mentioned in an earlier post-they are our choice for driving around the Adirondacks in the winter. No wonder they have been setting new sales records each month since more than a year ago.
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                              Originally posted by DrDemento View Post
                              Never said it was my choice car for snow. But never had a problem with it. Of course when the weather is bad we use one of our other cars-but we have been caught in some horrible weather on trips with it-and i have never had difficulty. Perhaps because ours has AWD? But given the choice for bad weather driving-we pick on eof our Audis all the time.
                              Could be. But then again, if I owned a Porsche, it wouldn't see the light of day between October and April.
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                              Originally posted by SanTropez
                              May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                              Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                              I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                              Originally posted by Kepler
                              When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                              He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                              • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                                Could be. But then again, if I owned a Porsche, it wouldn't see the light of day between October and April.
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