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  • Re: Obama XXIV: Forward ... pause ... rewind ... play

    Originally posted by Rover View Post
    Can't say what the standard for "fine" shape is but I'll define what I think about it.

    1) Company is profitable to a significant degree (7.6Bn last year I believe)

    2) Company is far better off than pre-bankrupcy where too much debt and bad deals with workers was strangling company (now #1 automaker again).

    3) US Govt will end up making money on the deal in total even if selling the stock at a loss.

    Somebody asked me if I have bought GM stock. I actually bought Ford stock, for one simple reason which was Ford was trading @ 2X earnings while GM was higher. Unfortunately for me Ford is STILL trading at 2X earnings but c'est la vie. GM is now a viable going concern, and who among us would have thought that three years ago? The notion that its about to become bankrupt again is from one conservative Club for Growth hack writing for Forbes who has no insight into the industry.
    I'll take that as a No.

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    • Re: Obama XXIV: Forward ... pause ... rewind ... play

      Originally posted by Handyman View Post
      Over the current system? In a heartbeat! Medicare for all is aok by me, cover the basics and let people buy supplements if they want more. And while I giggle at the idea of death panels (which, if you want to be serious exist now anyways since every insurance company has a committee that decides who gets what care and why) in the way Sarah "I Really Am this Stupid" Palin talked about them I have no problem with rationing care to a point.

      Anything is better than the current system...anything.
      You do know that it's a felony to supplement payment for a procedure or good that is covered by Medicare whilst you are currently covered by Medicare, yes? That was placed into law in 1997.

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      • Re: Obama XXIV: Forward ... pause ... rewind ... play

        Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
        You do know that it's a felony to supplement payment for a procedure or good that is covered by Medicare whilst you are currently covered by Medicare, yes? That was placed into law in 1997.
        No I didnt...but then again if Single Payer came about I am guessing that law would go away
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        • Re: Obama XXIV: Forward ... pause ... rewind ... play

          Originally posted by Handyman View Post
          No I didnt...but then again if Single Payer came about I am guessing that law would go away
          Medigap insurance isn't illegal though. I see he forgot to tell you that.
          Medicare provides a whole lot of coverage, but it doesn't cover everything. So some people choose to buy a separate policy to provide coverage for the areas Medicare falls short on. This is known as Medigap insurance. You buy Medigap from a private insurance company.

          You can also use your Medigap policy to cover expenses you have under Medicare, such as annual co-pays and deductibles.

          Important note: If you opt for a Medicare Advantage Plan (Medicare Part C), any Medigap policy you have won't pay out. So if you decide to move into a Medicare Advantage Plan and you already have a Medigap policy, drop the Medigap.
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            Look, "Medicare for all" is a slogan...I dont actually want that I want universal health care which is similar but most likely better. If Congress gets it so should we!

            Of course that wont happen since our leaders wouldnt even give the first responders on 9/11 coverage
            "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
            -aparch

            "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
            -INCH

            Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
            -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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            • Re: Obama XXIV: Forward ... pause ... rewind ... play

              Originally posted by Handyman View Post
              No I didnt...but then again if Single Payer came about I am guessing that law would go away
              The chances of that are about as good as me winning the Miss America pageant, and I'm a dude.

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              • Re: Obama XXIV: Forward ... pause ... rewind ... play

                Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                Medigap insurance isn't illegal though. I see he forgot to tell you that.
                Once again, you have shown that you did not read what I said. What I said was that if I wanted a Claritin pill, and it was covered by Medicare (by whatever plan it is, assume that I have it), it would be a felony for me to pay for the Claritin pill out of pocket. I would be forced to wait for Medicare to fund the bill for the Claritin pill.

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                • Re: Obama XXIV: Forward ... pause ... rewind ... play

                  Originally posted by geezer View Post
                  After all, GW Bush fully endorsed this crappy misguided bailout in the first place so you could just as easily call the bailout "conservative philosophy", right?
                  There was nothing economiclaly conservative about Jr.

                  re: Audi/German engineering

                  Had two Audi's in the 90's and until I feel otherwise I'll stick to Lexus/Acura/Infiniti

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                  • Re: Obama XXIV: Forward ... pause ... rewind ... play

                    Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                    Once again, you have shown that you did not read what I said. What I said was that if I wanted a Claritin pill, and it was covered by Medicare (by whatever plan it is, assume that I have it), it would be a felony for me to pay for the Claritin pill out of pocket. I would be forced to wait for Medicare to fund the bill for the Claritin pill.
                    And I'll bet that rule is in place because someone found a way to screw the system up. Just like all the other "rules" that are passed. Maybe we wouldn't have needed all these new banking rules if the morons running the banks hadn't run the entire economic system of the world into a cliff.
                    **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                    Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                    Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                    • Re: Obama XXIV: Forward ... pause ... rewind ... play

                      Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                      And I'll bet that rule is in place because someone found a way to screw the system up. Just like all the other "rules" that are passed. Maybe we wouldn't have needed all these new banking rules if the morons running the banks hadn't run the entire economic system of the world into a cliff.
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                        Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                        2004 Audi A4. I've had a series of repairs. But man, can that car corner.

                        You want reliability...its pretty much Japanese.
                        At last count over the years we have had 41 cars. Too exhaustive a list to post but more than 20 German. Have to agree-if you want reliability and a car that will just start and run most of the time then you go Japanese. If you want a fun car to drive, one that handles well, a great car for bad weather driving and with a solid feel-you go German. Every car is individual and you can always have problems. But for the the type of driving we do (with lots of Northeast weather), we have found the Audi to just be far and above the others with their version of AWD. Early ones were extremely reliable. Then a number of years of models with problems. But the more recent releases are back to a higher standard. For those with any doubts-go test drive the 2013 A6 Prestige with the full Innovation package.
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                        • Re: Obama XXIV: Forward ... pause ... rewind ... play

                          Originally posted by DrDemento View Post
                          a great car for bad weather driving...-you go German.
                          Totally OT:

                          I assume you're limiting the eval to sedans, because frankly I'm surprised by that statement. Sheer "driveability"-wise, most know that BMW, Audi, and Porsche are traditionally the gold standard, but I would not expect any of those luxury/performance vehicles to do well in regular snow & ice conditions, as I always assumed they were built with average weather in mind.

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                            I would never take a German auto for poor-weather driving - at least MN style. Cripes you'd think Volvo or Saab would do well also but they just don't cut the mustard. Sorry but give me American or Japanese in the winter every time and I bet of the best non-truck performers in the winter you'd be hard pressed to find more than one from Europe rated.

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                            • Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                              Romney only paid 13% of his income in taxes one year. I paid more than that in payroll taxes.
                              I pay more than that, and I am barely eligible. I am a bee sting away from financial disaster.
                              the state of hockey is good

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                              • Originally posted by state of hockey View Post
                                I pay more than that, and I am barely eligible. I am a bee sting away from financial disaster.
                                Standard deduction.... Go get some stuff!
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