Elections 2012 -- Carrion My Wayward Son!

[Rover]

Re: Elections 2012 -- Carrion My Wayward Son!

With all the caveman activity out here I'm curious why nobody has answered how using Medicare cuts to fund tax cuts for the rich benefits the rest of us? Also why do people over 55 get a free ride?

Thoughts?

[ScoobyDoo]

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The party out of power always has the goal of making the incumbent a one term president.

No Congressional leader has ever been as blatant about it as Mitch McConnell. If you remember correctly Tip worked with Reagan. Mitch won't work with Obama on anything.

[FreshFish]

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The Dems didn't cause this crisis directly -- that's the Tea Party ...'s doing .

What??????


The crisis occured in 2008; the TEA Party didn't even start until after Pelosi and Reid rammed the PPACA through Congress.

How can something that was not even in existence when the crisis occured be the "direct cause" of the crisis?


Wow.

[Kepler]

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The party out of power always has the goal of making the incumbent a one term president.

Few parties put a gun to the country's head to achieve it. A few have tried.

It's been fairly common in Europe, but in the US no opposition party has yet successfully sabotaged the government in order to take control of it, but the GOP is free to try. The Federalists and the Whigs have some advice for where that leads.

[FreshFish]

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With all the caveman activity out here I'm curious why nobody has answered how using Medicare cuts to fund tax cuts for the rich benefits the rest of us? Also why do people over 55 get a free ride?

Thoughts?

um...Obama cut over $700 billion from Medicare to fund PPACA, no?

My thoughts are that you are setting up a bogus "argument" in the first place. Please show me where anyone has suggested cutting Medicare? The premium support model says take the money that is already being spent anyway and spent it more effectively. You have not explained how that equates to a "cut" when the funding level stays the same.

Also, please show me where anyone has proposed tax cuts for the rich. the proposal is that we make the tax code more growth-friendly by using revenue-neutral adjustments: there's a one-for-one trade-off between fewer deductions and lower rates, so that revenue is the same either way but one rewards productivity instead of being well-connected to a special-interest Congressman. Where is the "cut" here?

So you raise two phantoms, neither of which has been proposed, and then ask someone why your phantoms have no substance?

or are you a Democratic speechwriter testing out material?

[LynahFan]

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With all the caveman activity out here I'm curious why nobody has answered how using Medicare cuts to fund tax cuts for the rich benefits the rest of us? Also why do people over 55 get a free ride?

Thoughts?

Sorry, we've been too busy beating our wives. Have you stopped that yet?

[FlagDUDE08]

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What??????


The crisis occured in 2008; the TEA Party didn't even start until after Pelosi and Reid rammed the PPACA through Congress.

How can something that was not even in existence when the crisis occured be the "direct cause" of the crisis?


Wow.

Actually, the TEA Party started after the government bailed out Fannie and Freddie in March of 2009, and decided to subsidise the losers' mortgages.

[Kepler]

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Sorry, we've been too busy beating our wives. Have you stopped that yet?

I dunno about you, but we've been beating Harvard...

(except when it counts. I know, I know)

Meanwhile, some Republicans are worried about the effect of Ryan downticket.

[FreshFish]

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Sorry, we've been too busy beating our wives. Have you stopped that yet?

I beat my wife up every morning. On weekdays, I'm out of the house before she wakes up. On weekends, since I beat her up then too, I get up first to make coffee.

[FlagDUDE08]

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I dunno about you, but we've been beating Harvard...

(except when it counts. I know, I know)

Meanwhile, some Republicans are worried about the effect of Ryan downticket.

You certainly haven't been beating a team that spent most of the year in the basement, though...

[Kepler]

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What??????


The crisis occured in 2008; the TEA Party didn't even start until after Pelosi and Reid rammed the PPACA through Congress.

How can something that was not even in existence when the crisis occured be the "direct cause" of the crisis?


Wow.

Try again. Do you recall the debt ceiling debacle and the hostage taking of the full faith and credit of the US, brought to you by your local TP rump? That's what we're talking about here.

[Bob Gray]

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I beat my wife up every morning. On weekdays, I'm out of the house before she wakes up. On weekends, since I beat her up then too, I get up first to make coffee.

I usually beat my wife up also, though on occasion she beats me up. This morning I beat her a good hour or so.

[ScoobyDoo]

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um...Obama cut over $700 billion from Medicare to fund PPACA, no?

My thoughts are that you are setting up a bogus "argument" in the first place. Please show me where anyone has suggested cutting Medicare? The premium support model says take the money that is already being spent anyway and spent it more effectively. You have not explained how that equates to a "cut" when the funding level stays the same.

Also, please show me where anyone has proposed tax cuts for the rich. the proposal is that we make the tax code more growth-friendly by using revenue-neutral adjustments: there's a one-for-one trade-off between fewer deductions and lower rates, so that revenue is the same either way but one rewards productivity instead of being well-connected to a special-interest Congressman. Where is the "cut" here?

So you raise two phantoms, neither of which has been proposed, and then ask someone why your phantoms have no substance?

or are you a Democratic speechwriter testing out material?

Not a phantom. The across the board tax cut Romney has been proposing cannot be paid for by closing tax loopholes. There are thousands of articles written on it and its been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. Thus its a huge giveaway to the rich. Don't worry though, it will trickle down.

[FlagDUDE08]

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Try again. Do you recall the debt ceiling debacle and the hostage taking of the full faith and credit of the US, brought to you by your local TP rump? That's what we're talking about here.

This is what happens when the attention whores want you to believe that they're victims.

The US dollar should have a junk rating right now. Any normal person that spends like this would be bankrupt in a month.

[Kepler]

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You certainly haven't been beating a team that spent most of the year in the basement, though...

8-0-2 in the RS the prior 5 years, though...