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  • #841
    Re: The Power of the SCOTUS III: Roberts' Rules of Order

    Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    So that's why you switched sides?
    Well. Played.
    Having a clear conscience just means you have a bad memory or you had a boring weekend.

    RIP - Kirby

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    • #842
      Re: The Power of the SCOTUS III: Roberts' Rules of Order

      When is tenure not tenure?

      http://blog.cardinalnewmansociety.or...e-appointment/

      Interesting argument.
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      • #843
        Re: The Power of the SCOTUS III: Roberts' Rules of Order

        That argument seems to be: never.

        Can't say that seems like a good idea.

        (OTOH, I don't know why a private denominational university extends tenure in the first place. There would seem to be certain explicit limits on academic freedom inherent in having a school identified with a given religion.)
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        • #844
          Re: The Power of the SCOTUS III: Roberts' Rules of Order

          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
          That argument seems to be: never.

          Can't say that seems like a good idea.

          (OTOH, I don't know why a private denominational university extends tenure in the first place. There would seem to be certain explicit limits on academic freedom inherent in having a school identified with a given religion.)
          In regards to your OTOH - read this ditty and let me know your thoughts (text) (article on)
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          1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

          ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
          - Benjamin Franklin

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          I want to live forever. So far, so good.

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          • #845
            Re: The Power of the SCOTUS III: Roberts' Rules of Order

            Without seeing the text of the actual contract, it's hard to make an informed guess....


            I suppose somewhere "tenure" is defined? then one could look at the definition, look at the behavior, and see if they conform or are disjoint, no?


            In other words, no "tenure" is absolute, I'd guess, there is always something more important that overrides....say a person is convicted of a felony and goes to prison, don't they lose "tenure"?

            Okay, I know that is extreme....the problem becomes like the sorites problem from philosophy: exactly where do you draw a "fine line" when the concept itself has an inherent vagueness?
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            • #846
              Re: The Power of the SCOTUS III: Roberts' Rules of Order

              Originally posted by joecct View Post
              In regards to your OTOH - read this ditty and let me know your thoughts (text) (article on)
              I will read it.
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              • #847
                Re: The Power of the SCOTUS III: Roberts' Rules of Order

                So a House Committee sues Eric Holder.....

                http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...t-and-furious/
                "Hope is a good thing; maybe the best of things."

                "Beer is a sign that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -- Benjamin Franklin

                "Being Irish, he had an abiding sense of tragedy, which sustained him through temporary periods of joy." -- W. B. Yeats

                "People generally are most impatient with those flaws in others about which they are most ashamed of in themselves." - folk wisdom

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                • #848
                  Re: The Power of the SCOTUS III: Roberts' Rules of Order

                  EPA overruled....again.

                  According to a scoreboard by the American Action Forum, Tuesday's rebuke from the D.C. Circuit marks the 15th time that a federal court has struck down an Obama regulation, and the sixth smack-down for the Obama EPA.
                  "Hope is a good thing; maybe the best of things."

                  "Beer is a sign that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -- Benjamin Franklin

                  "Being Irish, he had an abiding sense of tragedy, which sustained him through temporary periods of joy." -- W. B. Yeats

                  "People generally are most impatient with those flaws in others about which they are most ashamed of in themselves." - folk wisdom

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                  • #849
                    Re: The Power of the SCOTUS III: Roberts' Rules of Order

                    Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
                    EPA overruled....again.
                    The Supreme Court is there to prevent a fascist dictator from gaining too much power. Now we need to re-educate people that "welfare" does not mean parenting the population.

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                    • #850
                      Re: The Power of the SCOTUS III: Roberts' Rules of Order

                      Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                      The Supreme Court is there to prevent a fascist dictator from gaining too much power. Now we need to re-educate people that "welfare" does not mean parenting the population.
                      That'll be a major reeducation effort!
                      Originally posted by Priceless
                      Good to see you're so reasonable.
                      Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                      Very well, said.
                      Originally posted by Rover
                      A fair assessment Bob.

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                      • #851
                        Re: The Power of the SCOTUS III: Roberts' Rules of Order

                        Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
                        That'll be a major reeducation effort!
                        "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." --Lao-Tzu

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                        • #852
                          Re: The Power of the SCOTUS III: Roberts' Rules of Order

                          Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
                          That'll be a major reeducation effort!
                          I don't know if it is possible to "reeducate" lazy loser pieces of welfare trash.
                          Having a clear conscience just means you have a bad memory or you had a boring weekend.

                          RIP - Kirby

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                          • #853
                            Re: The Power of the SCOTUS III: Roberts' Rules of Order

                            Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                            "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." --Lao-Tzu
                            And the first step is a tough one for folks who have to get up out of the Lazyboy, put down the cheese balls, set aside the Big Gulp, and resist taking one more slice of Papa John's pizza.
                            Originally posted by Priceless
                            Good to see you're so reasonable.
                            Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                            Very well, said.
                            Originally posted by Rover
                            A fair assessment Bob.

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                            • #854
                              Re: The Power of the SCOTUS III: Roberts' Rules of Order

                              Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                              The Supreme Court is there to prevent a fascist dictator from gaining too much power. Now we need to re-educate people that "welfare" does not mean parenting the population.
                              It can still happen. Put any country in the state of the Weimar Republic and a strongman will emerge.
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                              5 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18)
                              1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

                              ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
                              - Benjamin Franklin

                              Banned from the St. Lawrence University Facebook page - March 2016 (But I got better).

                              I want to live forever. So far, so good.

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                              • #855
                                Re: The Power of the SCOTUS III: Roberts' Rules of Order

                                Originally posted by joecct View Post
                                It can still happen. Put any country in the state of the Weimar Republic and a strongman will emerge.
                                I've got a wheelbarrow in the backyard. Hopefully all I haul in it is dirt and rock.
                                Originally posted by Priceless
                                Good to see you're so reasonable.
                                Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                                Very well, said.
                                Originally posted by Rover
                                A fair assessment Bob.

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