NHL 2012: Playoffs! Pick Your Overtime Winners!

[goldy_331]

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They seem quite content with their current level of fandom and suckitude, if you ask me.

If they weren't they'd replace Snow.

[Kepler]

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Kepler, I'm just curious. Are you an Islanders fan? My point is that Boston fans are no more insufferable than New York fans.

It's a different kind of insufferable (I'm mostly comparing Rangers and Bruins fans here, since my Islanders actually have no fans). They're both obnoxious and self-obsessed, but New York fans bring their own horn section, while Boston fans bring their own violin.

Second City Syndrome has always been a shade more irritating.

[MountieBoyOz]

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The NHL got twice as much coverage as the NFL? The End is nigh! Repent!

http://deadspin.com/5904225/bristolm...ium=socialflow

[RaceBoarder]

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Given how the Hawks/Yotes series has had absolutely zero flow, momentum, or predictability to it, I'm clueless as to what to expect tonight... Well, except for the fact that the game will start at 8pm CST and given that I have to be up for work at 3:45am tomorrow, it will go 4OT

The Hawks have been such a bipolar team this postseason... They will start the game with pressure, then just fall off for the middle half of the game.... I don't know if it's frustration with the trap that PHX plays or what... We need to get to desperation time to get a fire lit it seems... I dunno if we can hold on for a 6th straight game tonight... PHX doesn't seem to have anywhere near the mental fatigue that the Hawks have faced this series...

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

Second City Syndrome has always been a shade more irritating.

No, they're both equally irritating...

[Priceless]

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The NHL got twice as much coverage as the NFL? The End is nigh! Repent!

http://deadspin.com/5904225/bristolm...ium=socialflow

And yet the 15 most mentioned names...

LeBron James: 45
Dwight Howard: 42
Albert Pujols: 37
Kevin Durant: 32
Andrew Bynum: 26
Derrick Rose: 26
Pat Summitt: 23
Dwayne Wade: 22
Carmelo Anthony: 21
Derek Jeter: 20
Russell Westbrook: 19
Stan Van Gundy: 18
Drew Brees: 18
Matt Kemp: 17
Blake Griffin: 16

Not a single hockey player.

Of course, 30% of the time spent on the NHL were covering the Pittsburgh Penguins. Now that their hero Crysbaby is eliminated, they can go back to ignoring hockey again.

[MattS]

It's a different kind of insufferable (I'm mostly comparing Rangers and Bruins fans here, since my Islanders actually have no fans). They're both obnoxious and self-obsessed, but New York fans bring their own horn section, while Boston fans bring their own violin.

Second City Syndrome has always been a shade more irritating.

I think anyone who is an Isles fan shouldn't talk about any other fan base. The whole glass house thing king of comes mind.

[lugnut92]

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Based on Bradley-Terry rankings (i.e., KRACH) found here, the updated (after 4/22, old KRACH) most likely outcomes are:

West:LAK in 5 (100%), STL in 5 (100%), PHX in 6 (49.7%), NSH in 5 (100%)
East: OTT in 6 (38.3%), BOS in 7 (52.9%), FLA in 6 (46.6%), PHI in 6 (100%)

Overall winning probabilities:
West
VAN 0.00% - LAK 100.0%
STL 100.0% - SJS 0.00%
PHX 74.7% - CHI 25.3%
NSH 100.0% - DET 0.00%

East
NYR 38.0% - OTT 62.0%
BOS 52.9% - WAS 47.1%
FLA 71.5% - NJD 28.5%
PIT 0.00% - PHI 100.0%

As always, KRACH is not a perfect predictive system. In fact, it's not predictive at all; it's retrodictive. Home-ice advantage, momentum, and the like can not be accounted for reliably, so they are ignored.

Remarks: By the numbers, Ottawa winning tonight is just barely more likely to happen than NYR winning the next two (38.336% to 38.025%), which sort of highlights the scenario I proposed after Game 1 of the VAN-LAK series. In fact, before the KRACHs were updated to reflect the Sens' Game 5 victory, the Rangers victory in 7 was more likely than either Ottawa winning scenario, though Ottawa was more likely to win the series in any fashion. In other news, 3 of the 4 series have been correctly predicted by KRACH so far, and I think everyone can agree that Quick and the Kings are much better than their record indicates. When the round is all over, I'll have a little wrap-up post commenting on how likely each of the actual outcomes seemed at the round's start.

Next Round possibilities:

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|WEST |    HOME         |
|CONF.|-----------------|
|     | STL | PHX | NSH |
|-----------------------|
|A|NSH|XXXXX|74.7%|XXXXX|
|W|---|-----------------|
|A|CHI|XXXXX|XXXXX|25.3%|
|Y|---|-----------------|
| |LAK| 100%|XXXXX|XXXXX|
-------------------------

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|EAST |             HOME            |
|CONF.|-----------------------------|
|     | NYR | BOS | FLA | PHI | NJD |
|-----------------------------------|
| |FLA|XXXXX|14.4%|XXXXX|XXXXX|XXXXX|
| |---|-----------------------------|
|A|PHI|14.4%|5.72%|36.3%|XXXXX|XXXXX|
|W|---|-----------------------------|
|A|NJD|5.72%|XXXXX|XXXXX|14.4%|XXXXX|
|Y|---|-----------------------------|
| |WAS|17.9%|XXXXX|XXXXX|20.9%|8.31%|
| |---|-----------------------------|
| |OTT|XXXXX|32.8%|20.9%|8.31%|XXXXX|
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[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

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And yet the 15 most mentioned names...



Not a single hockey player.

Of course, 30% of the time spent on the NHL were covering the Pittsburgh Penguins. Now that their hero Crysbaby is eliminated, they can go back to ignoring hockey again.

There are quite a few interesting thoughts that can be discussed about why there was so much NHL talk on SportsCenter last week, why it will stop almost immediately and why not one of the most mentioned athletes was a hockey player, but they're more suited for the "Complain about ESPN" thread.

The slightly condensed version:

• The NHL had a lot of interesting and meaningful games this week, so ESPN was going to cover it on the basis of "having a good story on SportsCenter". As much as we're all convinced that they're biased against the NHL because they don't have the rights to it, they are still also going to be biased towards covering "good stories" to a certain extent.
• In a mixture of the "good stories" and "hating the NHL" angle, there were also plenty of officiating/cheap shot/player suspension controversies for ESPN to latch onto to try to make the league look bad.
• The mentions of individual athletes item is where ESPN chooses to show its favoritism. Think of the Jeremy Lin or Tim Tebow over-saturation: how often were those names mentioned on air in the context of showing highlights or analyzing the previous night's game? If you said "not anywhere near as often as the 'sources say that...'/'here's what this athlete said on twitter' reports and inane talking head segments where pundits yammer on about the 'historical significance' of Tim Tebow throwing an incomplete pass", you would be right. When they want to promote a player, team or sport, they're more likely to do it by finding stupid reasons to say their names a bunch of times than they are to show more highlights.

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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Can someone explain to me why Chris Neil wasn't suspended for his cheap shot that concussed Boyle?

[MountieBoyOz]

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Can someone explain to me why Chris Neil wasn't suspended for his cheap shot that concussed Boyle?

Because the CBC needs a Canadian team for Round 2.

[MountieBoyOz]

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Of course the should-be suspended Neil would score on us.

[jmh]

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The Sens play such garbage hockey. It's like the '90s Devils reincarnated. Trip and hold at every opportunity because they can't call everything.

[A Shot and a Goal]

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So after the first round of the playoffs is over and before the second round begins I'm in favor of a cage match between Rafi Torres and Metta World Peace. Could be pay-per-view box office gold.

[MountieBoyOz]

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Rick Nash woulda been nice to have.