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Originally posted by Priceless View PostEver the optimist!
Do you even know what the bargain was? "Taxing the rich more" was hardly the proposal.
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Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View PostWhole election will be gay marriage now. Obama will lost to Romney on that issue. All the states that have it on the ballot will shoot it down. Minnesota has it on the ballot.
Originally posted by MUnRPI View PostThe tax code is archaic and the solution is not as simple as "taxing the rich more" because Obama's definition of rich is horse****. Families who make $250,000 a year should not be paying 2.5 times the income tax of hedge fund managers.Last edited by Priceless; 05-10-2012, 09:30 AM.
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Originally posted by unofan View PostThe GOP lost any credance at being fiscally conservative when Eric Cantor and the Tea Party derp-brigade scuttled the grand bargain that would have given them 98% of what they wanted. "No new taxes" is as fiscally irresponsible as any spending right now.
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Whole election will be gay marriage now. Obama will lost to Romney on that issue. All the states that have it on the ballot will shoot it down. Minnesota has it on the ballot.
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Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View PostI believe primarily in what's best for me, or helps put me in a situation to do the best I can do for myself from a financial standpoint, so the balance of my politics will always lean towards economic issues and spending/taxation. My social views are pretty straightforward. Don't like abortion? Don't have one. Don't like gays/gay marriage? Don't hook up with another dude. Not keen on religion? Don't join one. Think guns are evil? Don't buy one. Etc.
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Originally posted by unofan View Postright now, it doesn't matter, because the more fiscally conservative party is also the socially liberal one.
The gop lost any credance at being fiscally conservative when eric cantor and the tea party derp-brigade scuttled the grand bargain that would have given them 98% of what they wanted. "no new taxes" is as fiscally irresponsible as any spending right now.
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Originally posted by joecct View PostIn the big picture, homosexual marriage is not an issue. As Slick Willie said - "It's the economy, stupid."
BHO is a party theoretician that suddenly got the premiership. He has no idea on how to run a government as he never had experience in running or being in charge of anything. Mitt may be the champion of the Waffle House, but he ran the SLC Olympics and somehow got elected governor of Massachusetts.And remember, homosexuals and polygamists can always contract into an arrangement and the courts can't touch it. So what's the big deal?
Microcosm of what we are doing on a national level. Cut everything because spending is bad but do not look at the long term effects Sort of like cutting off your foot because it hurts after you stubbed your toe and then realizing you can't walk. No one has the balls to go through with addressing anything because it might mean investing the $ to fix stuff. We are, however, supposed to pull the solution out of our collective a55 when we suddenly realize we are in a mess. Look at what austerity measures have reaped in Europe. Audiovisual aides number 1 through... (Greece, Spain, UK, Ireland, France and I think Italy off the top of my head)
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Originally posted by Slap Shot View PostI wonder how much of this is due to parents vs. education. I was lucky enough to attend one of the better districts in our state and yet would swear I knew less at the same age as my kids know now globally. As my wife is from Thailand and I worked/travelled globally before they were born we've grilled the boys on foreign affairs since they were born and perhaps that's the rub. A local education is necessary, but sans involved parents unless the kid wants to learn there's only so much that can be taught. A kid can learn anywhere if he/she wants to and/or the parents give a rip - private or public.Last edited by leswp1; 05-10-2012, 06:00 AM.
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Originally posted by Old Pio View PostIn between reports on the problems of gay prison inmates and Mumia Abu Jamal, NPR can be a good source of information. Certainly superior to your local TV "news." Mindless, boring, uninformative and stupid. But other than that, a good place to find out wht's going on.
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Originally posted by leswp1 View PostThis. My kid has friends who can barely name a few European countries never mind be aware of the financial strife. Lil les is more knowledgeable than most of the adults in our neighborhood. Blame NPR- that socialist radio station that has international news on to polute his mind.
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Originally posted by joecct View PostAnd remember, homosexuals and polygamists can always contract into an arrangement and the courts can't touch it. So what's the big deal?
By that ridiculously stupid standard states should be allowed to stop interracial marriages for the same reason. I mean if Tremaine and Mindy can just for a corporation and get the same rights why should Virginia or South Carolina be forced to allow them to marry? Or hey, lets say Florida feels Blacks or Cubans shouldn't vote, they could just take that right away and it would be ok because said people could just form a corporation and, since they are people, donate as much money as they want and have their voices heard even if they cant vote.
Face facts, its bigotry whether you like it or not. It is also a violation of civil rights and goes against the shooting down of "Separate But Equal" because the bible says its icky.
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Originally posted by MUnRPI View Postthis is a question for anyone that considers themselves fiscally conservative / socially liberal.
Which do you value more as a voter, economic or social issues?
The GOP lost any credance at being fiscally conservative when Eric Cantor and the Tea Party derp-brigade scuttled the grand bargain that would have given them 98% of what they wanted. "No new taxes" is as fiscally irresponsible as any spending right now.
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Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View PostI believe primarily in what's best for me, or helps put me in a situation to do the best I can do for myself from a financial standpoint, so the balance of my politics will always lean towards economic issues and spending/taxation. My social views are pretty straightforward. Don't like abortion? Don't have one. Don't like gays/gay marriage? Don't hook up with another dude. Not keen on religion? Don't join one. Think guns are evil? Don't buy one. Etc.
Not true; Romney just hasn't decided his position on equal rights yet.
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