The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

[Rover]

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What Papa Scrooge doesn't seem to realize is that his is not the only pizza joint in the country. That and his product isn't that great. He can launch a public campaign against his employees and then watch as his business bleeds away to his rivals. That's the beauty of public exposure of these idiots. Unlike most Republicans, he can't just move his operations over to China.

[geezer]

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My wife has client that is a small business which employs a number of people with minimal skills. They are assembly jobs that require dexterity bit little knowledge. The owner has always gone well out of his way to treat his people well. He has a dilemma now. His faith will not allow him to buy insurance that pays for abortion. He is bringing suit on his own to be allowed to get insurance without that coverage. His only other option is to make everyone part time.

The most obvious outcome to all this will be that the new normal will be working two or more part-time jobs (obviously with no benefits) to make up for the lost full time opportunities. We can all agree it sucks.

[goldy_331]

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My wife has client that is a small business which employs a number of people with minimal skills. They are assembly jobs that require dexterity bit little knowledge. The owner has always gone well out of his way to treat his people well. He has a dilemma now. His faith will not allow him to buy insurance that pays for abortion. He is bringing suit on his own to be allowed to get insurance without that coverage. His only other option is to make everyone part time.

[FlagDUDE08]

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Sweet house! But I don't think you understand business and specifically, profit margins in the food business, when you complain about it hurting the little guy. That cozy little castle may very well represent the difference between the average employee making $7.60 or $7.65 per hour. Not enough to make a difference in their lives individually (certainly not enough to buy health insurance!), but enough to buy a castle when you add it all up and manage it wisely (overseas accounts, invest in Brazil and China, etc. ).
To say that sparing a bit of his profits could buy his employees health care only shows how ignorant you are. Think about what the goals of any business are, and what they ought to be. Then read some books on the topic. Then change your diet in support of your social convictions. Then come back and complain some more. I'm betting you won't.
One of the important concepts you should learn is that if the aforementioned hypothetical $7.60 per hour were not enough to get the employees to want the job, they are welcome to work elsewhere for what the market will bear. We can assume that if the pay was $7.65, the chain would have a surplus of applicants for what they need.

How dare you give a left-wing communist a trickle down lecture!

[FlagDUDE08]

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It's a pizza joint. The employees ARE disposable assets, whether the owner wants them to be or not.

I don't think this dude has ever understood what goes into a balance sheet.

[geezer]

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I've changed my mind, Papa Johns needs to cut employees. How else can he afford to keep his modest... castle. Or his 22 car underground garage with valet and carwash?

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Srsly? This ****er can't afford to spare any profit for his employees to have health care?

Sweet house! But I don't think you understand business and specifically, profit margins in the food business, when you complain about it hurting the little guy. That cozy little castle may very well represent the difference between the average employee making $7.60 or $7.65 per hour. Not enough to make a difference in their lives individually (certainly not enough to buy health insurance!), but enough to buy a castle when you add it all up and manage it wisely (overseas accounts, invest in Brazil and China, etc. ).
To say that sparing a bit of his profits could buy his employees health care only shows how ignorant you are. Think about what the goals of any business are, and what they ought to be. Then read some books on the topic. Then change your diet in support of your social convictions. Then come back and complain some more. I'm betting you won't.
One of the important concepts you should learn is that if the aforementioned hypothetical $7.60 per hour were not enough to get the employees to want the job, they are welcome to work elsewhere for what the market will bear. We can assume that if the pay was $7.65, the chain would have a surplus of applicants for what they need.

[FreshFish]

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did I post this already? it might not have gone through.

why are health related companies - hospitals, medical device companies, pharms, etc - cutting their work forces? wont ObamaCare be being millions into the system? more demand should equal more supply. what am I not getting about?

Price rationing. Obama"care" is not about improving the quality of care it is about creating mass production lines. There is nothing in the law about "care;" the law is all about (attempts at) cost control.


Obama"care" is not bringing any new money into the system; it is merely shifting around existing funds. Cut from Medicare to apply it toward PPACA for example.



there actually is a "medical devices tax" making it more expensive to acquire equipment. backwards from what a rational person would want.

[huskyfan]

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did I post this already? it might not have gone through.

why are health related companies - hospitals, medical device companies, pharms, etc - cutting their work forces? wont ObamaCare be being millions into the system? more demand should equal more supply. what am I not getting about?

[FreshFish]

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obviously lots of you have never written a business plan, budget or understand bank covenants

absence of knowledge, lack of experience, nothing stops a self-proclaimed know it all from opining.

[Rover]

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I'm enjoying the public humiliation this guy is going through now. This is what these greedy a-holes deserve. Want to try to make a politcal statement to kiss butt with the minority party that's lost 4 out of the last 6 elections? Okay, but don't whine if some public scrutiny comes your way.

[goldy_331]

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So he no longer wants to add an extra nickel and dime to the price of a pizza he's just going to part time employees? Which will actually force him to hire more employees to fill in those hours. I guess he's got some job creation going for him. Although he'll probably just make fewer work harder.

Kind of like that Applebees guy needing an extra 50 cents a sandwich. How poorly is your business doing when that's going to make or break your entire franchise?

Clearly these guys treating their employees as disposable assets is a good long term business plan.

It's a pizza joint. The employees ARE disposable assets, whether the owner wants them to be or not.

[FlagDUDE08]

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He's a job creator. What the **** is he paying taxes for?

It's not for the monopoly. He who controls the gold makes the rules.

[ScoobyDoo]

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I've changed my mind, Papa Johns needs to cut employees. How else can he afford to keep his modest... castle. Or his 22 car underground garage with valet and carwash?

*****http://i.imgur.com/AeEbi.jpg******

Srsly? This ****er can't afford to spare any profit for his employees to have health care?

He's a job creator. What the **** is he paying taxes for?

[huskyfan]

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obviously lots of you have never written a business plan, budget or understand bank covenants

[FlagDUDE08]

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Yea that makes a whole lot of sense.

Made enough sense when it came to General Motors that he did it...