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  • Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

    Whenever I visit my PCP he goes on a fifteen minute screed about how the insurance and pharmaceutical industries are destroying American medicine. Seriously, I always ask him if his blood pressure is high.

    If we listened to our doctors those guys would be in jail.

    Of the health care people I've encountered I would say they're about 70:30 in favor. Keep in mind I live in a very rural area where everybody below the rank of full MD is living within 5 miles of where their great-grandparents founded the local snake-biter cult.
    Last edited by Kepler; 08-15-2012, 10:36 AM.
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    • Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      A nice illustration of this in one figure:

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      You can take your vagina graph and cram it.
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      When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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        Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
        You can take your vagina graph and cram it.
        Or cream it.

        Wait. What?
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        • Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

          Originally posted by Kepler View Post

          Of the health care people I've encountered I would say they're about 70:30 in favor. Keep in mind I live in a very rural area where everybody below the rank of full MD is living within 5 miles of where their great-grandparents founded the local snake-biter cult.
          I've had a host of Medical issues in the last 2 years, I haven't talked to one Doc who is in favor of it. PCP, Gastros, Surgeons, Infusion Clinic Nurses, not one
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          • Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

            Originally posted by unofan View Post
            If I had a teenager who ran up a credit card debt on the emergency credit card, I'd cut up the credit card in front of him and tell him he's on his own until he pays me back (in fairness, I wouldn't give a credit card to any kid not in college - so my assumption is the kid should be somewhat self-sufficient anyway).
            ah, but would you stop feeding him / her? would you not allow them back into your house?

            That's what you suggested I would do in this situation, you know.

            It's a gnarly situation with no easy answers, eh?

            Everything doesn't always have to be constant warfare....
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              I've had a credit card since I was sophomore in high school. Taught me a lot about financial responsibility. I've always paid it off in full at the end of each month.
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              Originally posted by SanTropez
              May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
              Originally posted by bigblue_dl
              I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
              Originally posted by Kepler
              When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
              He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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              • Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

                Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
                ah, but would you stop feeding him / her? would you not allow them back into your house?
                If they're that fiscally irresponsible as an 18 year old college freshman? Possibly. I'd like to think I would not enable their destructive behaviors.

                But my wife and I are not planning to have kids. So it's all theoretical anyway.

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                  Can the power of data sway people more than unproven demagogery?

                  There's evidence of how effective—and popular—[premium support] would be. In 2003, Congress structured Medicare's prescription drug benefit by using the "premium support" concept. Though more seniors signed up and used it more than expected, the Congressional Budget Office now says the 10-year cost of this popular drug benefit will be 43% less than it estimated in March 2004.
                  http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...pinion_LEADTop
                  "Hope is a good thing; maybe the best of things."

                  "Beer is a sign that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -- Benjamin Franklin

                  "Being Irish, he had an abiding sense of tragedy, which sustained him through temporary periods of joy." -- W. B. Yeats

                  "People generally are most impatient with those flaws in others about which they are most ashamed of in themselves." - folk wisdom

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                  • Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

                    Medicare is actually a designed monopoly. It is a FELONY for a physician to accept a cash payment for a procedure that is covered by Medicare but cannot be funded at the time (1997 Balanced Budget Act, Section 4507). Also, in order to receive Social Security, you MUST enroll in Medicare.

                    http://www.cchfreedom.org/files/file...%204_14_12.pdf

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                    • Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

                      Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
                      Can the power of data sway people more than unproven demagogery?
                      So you guys are finally coming around on climate change?
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                      • Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

                        Originally posted by unofan View Post
                        If they're that fiscally irresponsible as an 18 year old college freshman? Possibly. I'd like to think I would not enable their destructive behaviors.

                        But my wife and I are not planning to have kids. So it's all theoretical anyway.
                        This is why Amex was a good training wheels card. But having developed good habits, you should leave home without it as soon as possible.

                        We're debating on the best way to introduce our daughter to the wonderful world of debt slavery.
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                        • Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          So you guys are finally coming around on climate change?
                          You still don't have concrete proof on that. Similar fluctuations were recorded in temperature even before the Industrial era!

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                          • Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

                            Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                            Medicare is actually a designed monopoly. It is a FELONY for a physician to accept a cash payment for a procedure that is covered by Medicare but cannot be funded at the time (1997 Balanced Budget Act, Section 4507). Also, in order to receive Social Security, you MUST enroll in Medicare.

                            http://www.cchfreedom.org/files/file...%204_14_12.pdf
                            Why does the Tea Party and Mitt Romney want to preserve Medicare then? Every bullet point in that PDF if bad.
                            **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                            Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                            Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                            • Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

                              Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                              Why does the Tea Party and Mitt Romney want to preserve Medicare then? Every bullet point in that PDF if bad.
                              I have no clue why Mittens is supporting it; like I said, I'm not voting for him. As for the TEA Party, the Republican takeover version may support it, but the real TEA Party, who backs people such as Herman Cain, do not.

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                              • Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

                                Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                                I have no clue why Mittens is supporting it; like I said, I'm not voting for him. As for the TEA Party, the Republican takeover version may support it, but the real TEA Party, who backs people such as Herman Cain, do not.
                                All the signs that said, "Don't Touch My Medicare" were at Tea Party rallies.
                                **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                                Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                                Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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