The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

[unofan]

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There IS the story that when BHO spoke at Georgetown, the school (was forced/asked?) covered up the religious symbols behind the podium.

Just like the NCAA forces people to cover up pepsi logos, right?

[joecct]

Bzzzzzt. Show me where the government is forcing "groups to remove icons." The government prevents ITSELF (including its schools and school functions) from displaying imagery that promotes any particular religion - keeping itself properly neutral. Private groups can display whatever icons they want on their property and in appropriate public spaces (e.g. wearing a Jesus T-shirt while walking on a public sidewalk).

There IS the story that when BHO spoke at Georgetown, the school (was forced/asked?) covered up the religious symbols behind the podium.

[FlagDUDE08]

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Bzzzzzt. Show me where the government is forcing "groups to remove icons." The government prevents ITSELF (including its schools and school functions) from displaying imagery that promotes any particular religion - keeping itself properly neutral. Private groups can display whatever icons they want on their property and in appropriate public spaces (e.g. wearing a Jesus T-shirt while walking on a public sidewalk).

How about a new Veterans memorial that just happens to take the shape of a lower case T?

[unofan]

Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

Bzzzzzt. Show me where the government is forcing "groups to remove icons." The government prevents ITSELF (including its schools and school functions) from displaying imagery that promotes any particular religion - keeping itself properly neutral. Private groups can display whatever icons they want on their property and in appropriate public spaces (e.g. wearing a Jesus T-shirt while walking on a public sidewalk).

And more to the point, government can display some religious symbols so long as it shows them all (there was a guy who put up a festivus pole next to a menorah and christmas tree)

[LynahFan]

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By constantly forcing groups to remove icons for reasons surrounding religion, you are certainly prohibiting the free exercise thereof. This is a form of establishing religion, as it is a government saying you may not practice this particular religion. If you were to provide me with The Book of Mormon, certainly it's literature, and you would find it in the non-fiction section of the library (200's according to Dewey), but that wouldn't force me to accept it as dogma.

Bzzzzzt. Show me where the government is forcing "groups to remove icons." The government prevents ITSELF (including its schools and school functions) from displaying imagery that promotes any particular religion - keeping itself properly neutral. Private groups can display whatever icons they want on their property and in appropriate public spaces (e.g. wearing a Jesus T-shirt while walking on a public sidewalk).

[unofan]

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Secularism is, in fact, an establishment of religion.

Now I know you're trolling.

[unofan]

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um...it's not "my" logic.

You adopted it as your position, so yes, it is yours.

[Kepler]

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From the late, great Nipsey Russell:

"The opposite of 'pro' is 'con', that fact is clearly seen: If 'progress' means move forward, then what does 'congress' mean?"

"A foreigner coming here and reading the Congressional Record would say that the President of the United States was elected solely for the purpose of giving Senators somebody to call a horse thief." -- Will Rogers

[FlagDUDE08]

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The House is pretty much always controlled by a-holes. What's the old joke? The Senate is a Country Club and the House is an Insane Asylum.

From the late, great Nipsey Russell:

"The opposite of 'pro' is 'con', that fact is clearly seen: If 'progress' means move forward, then what does 'congress' mean?"

[Kepler]

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What about the a-holes who had the House before this bunch of a-holes?

The House is pretty much always controlled by a-holes. What's the old joke? The Senate is a Country Club and the House is an Insane Asylum.

[joecct]

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There are a-holes on all sides. These a-holes are not in charge of the House of Representatives.

What about the a-holes who had the House before this bunch of a-holes?

[FlagDUDE08]

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Only if you force other people to practice it - and don't insult your own intelligence by saying that removing the 10 Commandments from a courthouse forces people to practice secularism.

By constantly forcing groups to remove icons for reasons surrounding religion, you are certainly prohibiting the free exercise thereof. This is a form of establishing religion, as it is a government saying you may not practice this particular religion. If you were to provide me with The Book of Mormon, certainly it's literature, and you would find it in the non-fiction section of the library (200's according to Dewey), but that wouldn't force me to accept it as dogma.

[Kepler]

Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

Secularism is, in fact, an establishment of religion.

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[LynahFan]

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Secularism is, in fact, an establishment of religion.

Only if you force other people to practice it - and don't insult your own intelligence by saying that removing the 10 Commandments from a courthouse forces people to practice secularism.

[Rover]

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and that makes it mandatory how, exactly?



("mandatory" in the sense that all health plans now must offer it..sounds like someone imposing their values on everyone else to me, and to every reasonable person I know as well. Of course, all you anointed ones on the left know better than everyone else, so why even bother responding to us in the first place? just impose your will by force of law and ignore the centuries of First Amendment rights)

Umm.....doesn't the SCOTUS, not internet knuckledraggers, decide what does and doesn't violate the First Amendment? And, wasn't the law upheld or something recently....

See Fishy, I'll put it to you again. The American people have the opportunity to render judgement on Obama for this come November. The majority rules (most of the time). How again is mandatory covering of birth control infringing on your rights? What right specifically?