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  • Re: New/Rented Movies: Have Mercy on Michael Bay's Soul, He Knows Not What He Does

    Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
    It's the exact same movie, except with more penii and it's in Thailand.

    Watched "The Rum Diary" today. Some parts were hilarious (although I don't know if they were meant to be; Depp's delivery made them funny), but overall, it was very meh.
    Yeah...if Hangover II had come out first it would be much better. It was cliche because all the plot points were the same.
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    • Re: New/Rented Movies: Have Mercy on Michael Bay's Soul, He Knows Not What He Does

      Originally posted by Handyman View Post
      Yeah...if Hangover II had come out first it would be much better. It was cliche because all the plot points were the same.
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      • Re: New/Rented Movies: Have Mercy on Michael Bay's Soul, He Knows Not What He Does

        Handy and anyone else: (not whiting this out because I dont think it will be a spoiler) In Prometheus we see Weyland Corp. But in the Alien series it was Weyland-Yutani. I wonder if any additional movies will address that?

        Also (this whited out for spoilers): David had a clear mission to get Weyland in contact with one of the "engineers." But why infect Calloway as well? I mean, at this point they didnt really know what they were dealing with so how could they know if it was going to be useful in the bio-weaponry division? I dont know. It seemed odd.

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        • Re: New/Rented Movies: Have Mercy on Michael Bay's Soul, He Knows Not What He Does

          Originally posted by icebadger View Post
          They're making Hangover 3...and it's back in Vegas.
          Huh...I thought I heard it was in LA but Vegas will work better.

          Proud2baLaker,

          If I remember correctly there is a merger or buyout of some kind previous to Alien where the Yulanti Corporation gets involved. Some have said it was a way of showing how in the future China (or another Asian nation I forget) will be a major force in American business. Nowadays that seems rather obvious...in 1979 not so much so if true then nice work!

          As for your other question: I dont think David infecting Halloway had anything to do with his agenda of getting Weyland to meet his maker...I think he was basically playing god. He knew the substance he found was organic (he made a comment when he touched it) and he obvious saw some potential growth in it when he made the comment about "Big things have small beginnings" and I think he figured out that the only way to see what would become of it was to infect someone. I think he chose Halloway because of the attitude he had towards David and because of the comment he made about why they created David. (Because we can) It is the obvious next step...the Engineers created humans for some reason, the humans created the android to serve a purpose and now David was going to infect Halloway to create a new organism as well. I think it was as much a philosophical action by him as it was a profit motive one for the company. The theme of the movie is creation and by learning more about it we learn more about ourselves. Weyalnd, Shaw and Halloway wanted to learn more about humanity by meeting their progenitors and David wanted to learn more about who he is and more about his purpose by helping create something new.

          That is how I saw it anyways...it is obviously open to a lot of interpretation which is something this movie has that Alien never had. This movie is a talker.
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          • Re: New/Rented Movies: Have Mercy on Michael Bay's Soul, He Knows Not What He Does

            Originally posted by Handyman View Post
            Huh...I thought I heard it was in LA but Vegas will work better.

            Proud2baLaker,

            If I remember correctly there is a merger or buyout of some kind previous to Alien where the Yulanti Corporation gets involved. Some have said it was a way of showing how in the future China (or another Asian nation I forget) will be a major force in American business. Nowadays that seems rather obvious...in 1979 not so much so if true then nice work!

            As for your other question: I dont think David infecting Halloway had anything to do with his agenda of getting Weyland to meet his maker...I think he was basically playing god. He knew the substance he found was organic (he made a comment when he touched it) and he obvious saw some potential growth in it when he made the comment about "Big things have small beginnings" and I think he figured out that the only way to see what would become of it was to infect someone. I think he chose Halloway because of the attitude he had towards David and because of the comment he made about why they created David. (Because we can) It is the obvious next step...the Engineers created humans for some reason, the humans created the android to serve a purpose and now David was going to infect Halloway to create a new organism as well. I think it was as much a philosophical action by him as it was a profit motive one for the company. The theme of the movie is creation and by learning more about it we learn more about ourselves. Weyalnd, Shaw and Halloway wanted to learn more about humanity by meeting their progenitors and David wanted to learn more about who he is and more about his purpose by helping create something new.

            That is how I saw it anyways...it is obviously open to a lot of interpretation which is something this movie has that Alien never had. This movie is a talker.
            handyman, you nailed it. I'll just say this as I don't think it's too big a spoiler

            that comment "because we can" really was stark at the moment it was made and obviously changes the relationship w/the fassbender character for the rest of the film. your analysis imo is spot on
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            • Re: New/Rented Movies: Have Mercy on Michael Bay's Soul, He Knows Not What He Does

              Originally posted by Handyman View Post
              Huh...I thought I heard it was in LA but Vegas will work better.
              The first thing I read said LA, but upon further review they will be filming in Vegas, LA, and Tijuana.
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              • Re: New/Rented Movies: Have Mercy on Michael Bay's Soul, He Knows Not What He Does

                Originally posted by icebadger View Post
                The first thing I read said LA, but upon further review they will be filming in Vegas, LA, and Tijuana.
                If they dont follow the same story beats that is an epic trifecta of possibilities. If they just put a bit of effort into the script it wont take much for the movie to be really good.
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                • Re: New/Rented Movies: Have Mercy on Michael Bay's Soul, He Knows Not What He Does

                  I was actually amazed how much I enjoyed Hangover II considering the fact that it pretty much was just a Mad-Libbed copy of the first movie. It'd be interesting to see what a few original ideas could do to make a third movie that much better.
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                  • Re: New/Rented Movies: Have Mercy on Michael Bay's Soul, He Knows Not What He Does

                    Originally posted by ExileOnDaytonStreet View Post
                    I was actually amazed how much I enjoyed Hangover II considering the fact that it pretty much was just a Mad-Libbed copy of the first movie. It'd be interesting to see what a few original ideas could do to make a third movie that much better.
                    It wasn't EXACTLY the same movie as 1. 2 had Mike Tyson singing karaoke, after all.
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                    • Re: New/Rented Movies: Have Mercy on Michael Bay's Soul, He Knows Not What He Does

                      Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                      It wasn't EXACTLY the same movie as 1. 2 had Mike Tyson singing karaoke, after all.
                      Mike sang in the first one as well, then punches Alan I believe.....
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                      • Re: New/Rented Movies: Have Mercy on Michael Bay's Soul, He Knows Not What He Does

                        Originally posted by bigmrg74 View Post
                        Mike sang in the first one as well, then punches Alan I believe.....


                        I love that scene
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                        • Re: New/Rented Movies: Have Mercy on Michael Bay's Soul, He Knows Not What He Does

                          wow. I have to say the negativity toward Prometheus is baffling. In my mind it's the best sci-fi film since possibly the original Alien.

                          Plot holes? really? Ya think 2001 didn't have a million of those?


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                          • Re: New/Rented Movies: Have Mercy on Michael Bay's Soul, He Knows Not What He Does

                            Originally posted by solovsfett View Post
                            wow. I have to say the negativity toward Prometheus is baffling. In my mind it's the best sci-fi film since possibly the original Alien.

                            Plot holes? really? Ya think 2001 didn't have a million of those?


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                            I am not really surprised...I think people wanted this movie to answer every question they had...which it was never meant to do. Plus, the questions it did answer they hate because it answered them in ways that contradict the theories they have in their mind that have lingered for 30 years. Plot holes are just a convenient excuse, every movie has them. Even Alien has them. (especially the original cut) The Alien diehards were going to have issues because this movie isnt the lead in they wanted. (it is exactly what Ridley Scott said it was, the father of the Alien universe) Let the haters hate they werent going to be happy unless they saw the Space Jockey flying the ship and landing on LV-426 and getting his chest ripped open with a Queen xenomorph jumping out to say hello. This movie was never supposed to be that Scott said it from day 1.

                            Interesting that rumors seem to be flying around that it is possible they may already have quite a bit of work done on the sequel (which is why it was talked about even before the reviews came in) as some feel they filmed both movies at the same time. (like Superman I and II were before Donner was canned and II was changed) There is no evidence that I could find (minus some talk about how long the filming schedule was in comparison to how much was shown...etc.) but since the Weyland-Yutani web site that was shown at the end of the credits hints at something big happening on 10/11/12 some are thinking that they will announce the Blu-Ray release and possibly have a teaser trailer ready. If true, Prometheus II will be the movie the haters want as it will be Shaw and David going to the Engineer Homeworld where they will most likely find out the true origin of the Xenomorph (which appears to have been alive previous to Prometheus as seen in the the mural in some form and turned into a biological weapon by the Engineers) and then the Space Jockey leaving while impregnated and landing on LV-426 waiting for Nostromo. Like I said it is a rumor, but seeing as they have never confirmed the budget for the film that could be the reason.
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                            • Re: New/Rented Movies: Have Mercy on Michael Bay's Soul, He Knows Not What He Does

                              Some bad news:

                              It's being reported that "The Girl" sequels are "still in development" which is a step back from a few months earlier, when it sounded like they were going to happen. Reason? "Tattoo" didn't actually make a profit (as of March).

                              BOO! This is no good if true.
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                              • Re: New/Rented Movies: Have Mercy on Michael Bay's Soul, He Knows Not What He Does

                                Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                                I am not really surprised...I think people wanted this movie to answer every question they had...which it was never meant to do. Plus, the questions it did answer they hate because it answered them in ways that contradict the theories they have in their mind that have lingered for 30 years. Plot holes are just a convenient excuse, every movie has them. Even Alien has them. (especially the original cut) The Alien diehards were going to have issues because this movie isnt the lead in they wanted. (it is exactly what Ridley Scott said it was, the father of the Alien universe) Let the haters hate they werent going to be happy unless they saw the Space Jockey flying the ship and landing on LV-426 and getting his chest ripped open with a Queen xenomorph jumping out to say hello. This movie was never supposed to be that Scott said it from day 1.

                                Interesting that rumors seem to be flying around that it is possible they may already have quite a bit of work done on the sequel (which is why it was talked about even before the reviews came in) as some feel they filmed both movies at the same time. (like Superman I and II were before Donner was canned and II was changed) There is no evidence that I could find (minus some talk about how long the filming schedule was in comparison to how much was shown...etc.) but since the Weyland-Yutani web site that was shown at the end of the credits hints at something big happening on 10/11/12 some are thinking that they will announce the Blu-Ray release and possibly have a teaser trailer ready. If true, Prometheus II will be the movie the haters want as it will be Shaw and David going to the Engineer Homeworld where they will most likely find out the true origin of the Xenomorph (which appears to have been alive previous to Prometheus as seen in the the mural in some form and turned into a biological weapon by the Engineers) and then the Space Jockey leaving while impregnated and landing on LV-426 waiting for Nostromo. Like I said it is a rumor, but seeing as they have never confirmed the budget for the film that could be the reason.
                                excellent points. And I agree with em all. A lot of this appears to be as you suggest: fanboys wanting to see the space jockey arriving on lv426 and what happened to him there, etc. I have 2 minor problems w/the film (to be discussed later maybe) but overall it really turned out to be even better than I had expected and added needed depth to the series. not to mention that for the genre this is a real jolt... when was the last great sci-fi film? there have been several "good" ones, AI (could have been great w/Kubrick), Minority Report, the last Star Trek, but...

                                I hadn't heard or read about the rumors of the sequel, if true that would be fantastic...
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