2011 D2 Football thread: Or how I still hate Trev Alberts!!!!

[bigmrg74]

Hell, almost forgot things kick off this week. Bemidji State faces off with Minot State in the Beaver Bowl tomorrow at 8 pm EDT. As far as I can tell, they are the first in all of the NCAA to kick off this year.

And for those of you wanting the National Rankings.....

D2Football.com Top 25 Preseason Poll
August 22, 2011

Rank Team 2010 Record
1 Minnesota-Duluth 15-0
2 Delta State 11-4
3 Abilene Christian 11-1
4 Grand Valley 11-2
5 Northwest Missouri 12-2
6 Texas A&M-Kingsville 10-2
7 Shepherd 12-2
8 Central Missouri 11-3
9 Augustana 11-2
10 Albany State 11-1
11 California 10-2
12 North Alabama 9-4
13 St. Cloud 10-3
14 Valdosta State 8-3
15 Bloomsburg 10-3
16 West Texas A&M 8-4
17 Mercyhurst 10-3
18 Hillsdale 9-3
19 Wingate 9-3
20 Kutztown 10-2
21 Missouri Western 8-4
22 Washburn 8-4
23 Colorado Mines 9-3
24 Wayne State (Mich.) 9-2
25 Nebraska-Kearney 9-2

And I do have it on a pretty good source that Michigan Tech was a team receiving votes as well for the preseason.

And yes, figure on there being a few odd rants and ravings about Trev and his gutless call to kill off UNO football and Wrestling.

[Bob Gray]

Re: 2011 D2 Football thread: Or how I still hate Trev Alberts!!!!

Let's do it again Bulldogs!

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: 2011 D2 Football thread: Or how I still hate Trev Alberts!!!!

Tech's votes come mostly due to returning the majority of what was the GLIAC's best defense last year. With Short gone, the starting QB still needs to be sorted out.

I'll say 8-3, with road losses to Wayne and GV for sure.

[bigmrg74]

Re: 2011 D2 Football thread: Or how I still hate Trev Alberts!!!!

Speaking of UMD....

The Man
Going from the Texas State, then Southwest Texas championship win in 1981.
Texas State went undefeated in '82
Texas State lost to Stephen F. Austin 27-24 on ??/83
SFA lost to ACU 24-10 ??/83
ACU lost to Texas State 54-13 ??/83
Texas State lost to Central State 24-16 ??/83
Central State lost to North Dakota State 41-21 ??/83
NDSU lost it to MSU-Mankato 28-21 on 09-15-84
MSU-Mankato lost it to Northern Colorado 24-22 on 09-22-84
UNC lost it to North Dakota 33-7 on 09-29-84
UND lost it to Nebraska-Omaha 28-3 on 10-20-84
UNO lost it to North Dakota State 25-14 on 12-01-84
NDSU lost it to Troy 18-17 on 12-08-84
Troy lost it to Mississippi College 45-21 on 10-19-85
MC lost it to West Geogia 30-28 on 11-02-85
WGU lost it to Delta State 25-20 on 11-09-85
DSU lost it to Valdosta State 39-20 on 11-16-85
VSU lost it to North Alabama 45-0 on 11-23-85
UNA lost it to NDSU 35-7 on 12-14-85
NDSU lost it to Northern Michigan 10-6 on 09-12-87
NMU lost it to Portland State 13-7 on 12-05-87
Portland lost it to Troy 31-17 on 12-12-87
Troy lost it to Central Florida 26-18 on 09-17-88
CFU lost it to New Haven 31-23 on 10-08-88
New Haven lost it to American International 51-21 on 10-15-88
AIC lost it to Bowie State 16-13 on 10-22-88
Bowie State lost it to Winston-Salem 16-14 on 11-05-88
Winston-Salem lost it to North Carolina Central 31-16 on 11-20-88
NC Central lost it to Sacramento State 56-7 on 11-27-88
Sac St lost it to NDSU 42-20 on 12-03-88
NDSU lost it to St. Cloud State 20-13 on 10-21-89
SCSU lost it to Mississippi College 55-24 on 11-18-89
MC lost it to IUP 27-8 on 12-03-90
IUP lost it to NDSU 51-11 on 12-10-90
NDSU lost it to GVSU 21-17 on 9/14/91
GVSU lost it to Butler 33-0 on 9/21/91
Butler lost it to Ferris State 7-6 on 10/19/91
Ferris State lost it to St Joseph's (IN) 16-10 on 11/9/91

St. Joseph's did not make the playoffs in 1991. Interim title of the Man goes to Pittsburg State for winning the NC in 1991.

St. Joseph's lost it to Grand Valley State 28-18 on 09-05-92
GVSU lost it to Indiana University (PA) 45-27 on 09-12-92

IUP did not lose to another D2 that year but missed the playoffs. Jacksonville State will claim PSU's Interim title from 91 in 92. Jacksonville leaves D2 that year with the interim belt.

IUP lost it to North Alabama 41-34 on 12-11-93
UNA did not lose to another D2 school until 1996.

UNA lost it to Albany State 17-10 on 08-31-96
Albany St lost it to Miles 29-24 on 09-07-96
Miles lost it to Tuskegee 37-36 on 09-21-96
Tuskegee lost it to Albany State 38-14 on 09-28-96
Albany St lost it to Valdosta State 38-28 on 11-23-96
VSU lost it to Carson-Newman 24-19 on 11-30-96
C-N lost it to Northern Colorado on 12-14-96
Northern Colorado lost it to Western State 14-13 on 9-13-97
Western State lost it to Fort Hays State 28-15 on 10-18-97
Fort Hays State lost it to New Mexico Highlands 35-28 on 10-25-97
NMH lost it to Nebraska-Kearney 49-48 on 11-08-97

UNK did not make the playoffs in 97. Interim Title of The Man goes to Northern Colorado for winning the NC that year.

UNK lost it to Missouri Western 26-23 on 9-5-98
MWSU lost it to Truman St. 41-15 on 9-19-98
Truman lost it to Central Missouri 10-7 on 9-26-98
CMSU lost it to Pittsburg St. 32-14 on 10-15-98
PSU lost it to Northwest Missouri 23-18 on 10-24-08
NWMSU lost to Nebraska-Omaha 40-17 on 9-4-99.
UNO lost to Northern Colorado 43-39 on 10-4-99.
UNC lost to North Dakota 24-16 on 10-16-99.
UND lost to South Dakota State 21-7 on 10-23-99.
SDSU lost to UNO 40-34 on 10-30-99.
UNO lost it to Augustana 31-24 on 11-6-99.
Augustana lost it to UNC 48-32 on 11-13-99.
UNC lost it to NWMSU 41-35 on 11-27-99.
NWMSU lost it to North Dakota State 34-17 on 11-18-00.
NDSU lost it to Delta State 34-16 on 12-2-00.
DSU lost it to Valdosta State 70-12 on 10-6-01.
VSU lost it to Catawba 37-34 on 11-24-01.
Catawba lost it to Grand Valley State 34-16 on 12-1-01.
GVSU lost it to UND 17-14 on 12-8-01.
UND lost it to Central Washington 43-7 on 9-7-02.
CWU lost it to UC Davis 24-6 on 11-23-02
UC Davis lost it to Texas A&M-Kingsville 27-20 on 11-30-02
TAMUK lost it to VSU 21-12 on 12-7-02.
VSU lost it to GVSU 31-24 on 12-14-02.
GVSU lost it to Saginaw Valley State 34-16 on 10-18-03.
SVSU lost it to GVSU 10-3 on 11-29-03.
GVSU lost it to SVSU 31-20 on 10-16-04.
SVSU lost it to Michigan Tech 38-18 on 10-30-04.
MTU lost it to GVSU 24-7 on 11-06-04.
GVSU lost it to UND 19-15 on 11-27-04.
UND lost it to Pittsburg State 31-19 on 12-04-04.
PSU lost it to VSU 36-31 on 12-11-04
VSU lost it to Harding 16-13 on 9-17-05.
Harding lost it to North Alabama 35-6 on 9-24-05.
UNA lost it to Central Arkansas 29-26 on 10-1-05.
UCA lost it to UNA 41-38 on 12-01-05.
UNA lost it to NWMSU 25-24 on 12-08-05.
NWMSU lost it to GVSU 21-17 on 12-15-05.
GVSU lost it to NWMSU 34-16 on 12-8-07.
NWMSU lost it to VSU 25-20 on 12-15-07.
VSU lost it to DSU 27-24 on 10-02-08.
DSU lost it to UNA 55-34 on 11-29-08.
UNA lost it to NWMSU 41-7 on 12-06-08.
NWMSU lost it to Minnesota-Duluth 21-14 on 12-13-08.
UMD lost it to Central Washington 13-10 on 09-03-09.
CWU lost it to NWMSU 21-20 on 11-28-09.
NWMSU lost it to TAMUK 16-7 on 09-02-10.
TAMUK lost it to Abilene Christian 31-24 on 10-02-10.
ACU lost it to Central Missouri 55-41 on 11-27-10.
CMU lost it to NWMSU 37-20 on 12-04-10.
NWMSU lost it to Minnesota-Duluth 17-13 on 12-11-10.

The Interim Title of the Man for 91 thru 96.

PSU won the title 23-6 against Jacksonville State.
PSU lost it to JSU 17-13 on 12-12-92
Jacksonville St. did not lose to another D2 school until 96.
JSU lost it to WGU 30-10 on 09-07-96
WGU lost it to Henderson St. 20-13 on 9-28-96
HSU lost it to DSU 24-0 on 10-05-96
DSU lost it to UNA 27-17 on 10-19-96
UNA lost it to CAU 21-20 on 11-02-96
CAU lost it to VSU 63-30 on 11-09-96
VSU lost it to WGU 42-21 on 11-16-96
WGU lost it to Carson-Newman 41-19 on 11-23-96
CN beat VSU 24-19 on 11-30-96 to Unify the titles.

Interim Title of The Man for 98
Northern Colorado lost it to Nebraska-Omaha 15-3 on 10-24-98
Nebraska-Omaha lost it to Northwest Missouri 28-14 on 11-21-98
NWMSU was the current holder of The Man title, so that game unified the title.

Minnesota-Duluth now currently holds the title of "The Man" now. I'm pretty sure I had all of the dates from 1988 to 1990 filled out, but I can't currently find that research I had from them and this was the most up to date copy of the list I had. I used this website here.... http://michigan-football.com/ncaa/ncaa_ii.htm and I pretty much used that site from there on to determine "The Man". It does get harder to figure out when teams moved up back then, but usually poking thru their older media guides will give you the dates you need, and you also might fight the info to confirm what division a school was when it played somebody who my have been a holder of the title belt then. If anybody can fill in those missing dates or track it back from an earlier champion, it would be a big help as well. In theory here, all NC winners were the Man, even if it was just an interim title.

And one of these days I will get it back to the 1975 NMU Wildcats. Even if I have to listen again to some of the old GVSU alumni rattle on about how they cheated in that game against them that year.

[bigmrg74]

Re: 2011 D2 Football thread: Or how I still hate Trev Alberts!!!!

Tech's votes come mostly due to returning the majority of what was the GLIAC's best defense last year. With Short gone, the starting QB still needs to be sorted out.

I'll say 8-3, with road losses to Wayne and GV for sure.

Replacing Short does seem to be the big issue for Tech this year. Short was a dangerous bugger back there, and last year helped to prove that.

[HumRsky]

Re: 2011 D2 Football thread: Or how I still hate Trev Alberts!!!!

I'm certainly not an expert on the comings and goings at D2 football teams across the country, but based on the knowledge I do have of NSIC teams and after browsing through my first ever copy of the D2 football preview magazine that D2football.com puts out, here is what my gut is telling me.

UMD will beat Augustana, but lose on the road to St. Cloud.
St. Cloud will win the NSIC North, Auggie will win the rest of their games and take the NSIC South and those two teams will share the overall conference title.
GVSU will come out of Super Region 3 and lose to Delta State in the National Title.

Of course what I WANT to happen is for UMD to have another undefeated Nat'l Title season, but I would also be happy in the SCSU football finally won the school's first National Title in any sport. I am a paying UMD season ticket holder for the first time (Got free tickets to SCSU as a Husky Pup and to UMD as a student) and I'm pumped for the season to start!

[bigmrg74]

Re: 2011 D2 Football thread: Or how I still hate Trev Alberts!!!!

I'm certainly not an expert on the comings and goings at D2 football teams across the country, but based on the knowledge I do have of NSIC teams and after browsing through my first ever copy of the D2 football preview magazine that D2football.com puts out, here is what my gut is telling me.

UMD will beat Augustana, but lose on the road to St. Cloud.
St. Cloud will win the NSIC North, Auggie will win the rest of their games and take the NSIC South and those two teams will share the overall conference title.
GVSU will come out of Super Region 3 and lose to Delta State in the National Title.

Of course what I WANT to happen is for UMD to have another undefeated Nat'l Title season, but I would also be happy in the SCSU football finally won the school's first National Title in any sport. I am a paying UMD season ticket holder for the first time (Got free tickets to SCSU as a Husky Pup and to UMD as a student) and I'm pumped for the season to start!

Pretty bold predictions there man.

[HumRsky]

Re: 2011 D2 Football thread: Or how I still hate Trev Alberts!!!!

Pretty bold predictions there man.

Other than St. Cloud beating UMD, I don't think I'm going that far out on a limb.

[First Time, Long Time]

Other than St. Cloud beating UMD, I don't think I'm going that far out on a limb.

I don't think even that is that far out on a limb.

[bigmrg74]

Other than St. Cloud beating UMD, I don't think I'm going that far out on a limb.

I was referring to your pick of GV losing to Delta State in the Championship.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Replacing Short does seem to be the big issue for Tech this year. Short was a dangerous bugger back there, and last year helped to prove that.

Looking at our schedule, I know that I predicted 8-3, but I could just as easily see 7-4, or even worse if injuries pop up (hopefully not as badly as two years ago). On that note, excuse me while I go grab my 5 lb. bag of sand.

As for QBs, supposedly our redshirt freshman Tyler Scarlett has a similar skillset to Short, but junior Ray Wojtala is older and has more reps. I'd surmise that he is the QB to start the season, and potentially loses the job to Scarlett if he isn't up to snuff. We had a similar situation with Drew Schaft and Steve Short my sophomore year, and you can see how that worked out - Short was the QB by Game 3.

[bigmrg74]

Re: 2011 D2 Football thread: Or how I still hate Trev Alberts!!!!

Looking at our schedule, I know that I predicted 8-3, but I could just as easily see 7-4, or even worse if injuries pop up (hopefully not as badly as two years ago). On that note, excuse me while I go grab my 5 lb. bag of sand.

As for QBs, supposedly our redshirt freshman Tyler Scarlett has a similar skillset to Short, but junior Ray Wojtala is older and has more reps. I'd surmise that he is the QB to start the season, and potentially loses the job to Scarlett if he isn't up to snuff. We had a similar situation with Drew Schaft and Steve Short my sophomore year, and you can see how that worked out - Short was the QB by Game 3.

A Five pound bag of Sand?? A Northwest Missouri State fan would laugh at that!

NWMSU fans are the worst Sandbaggers of D2F.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: 2011 D2 Football thread: Or how I still hate Trev Alberts!!!!

A Five pound bag of Sand?? A Northwest Missouri State fan would laugh at that!

NWMSU fans are the worst Sandbaggers of D2F.

Any school with a five-letter acronym should be banned from NCAA competition.

[bigmrg74]

Re: 2011 D2 Football thread: Or how I still hate Trev Alberts!!!!

Any school with a five-letter acronym should be banned from NCAA competition.

Like MIAMI??

[HumRsky]

I was referring to your pick of GV losing to Delta State in the Championship.

I agree with FTLT that St. Cloud beating UMD isn't that much of a stretch, and I also think that picking the #2 team to beat the #4 team in the championship isn't a particularly bold prediction.