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    Okay, I've heard stories about dead people voting. But a dead person getting elected to public office???

    In possibly the biggest upset victory of the midterm elections on Tuesday, voters in suburban Seattle opted to keep a recently-deceased man in the state legislature.

    Incumbent state Rep. Roger Freeman died shortly before Election Day, at the end of October, at the age of 48.

    Freeman’s win is certainly not the first time a deceased candidate has achieved victory in a race for public office. Possibly the most famous instance occurred in 2000, when Missouri Gov. Mel Carnahan, running for US Senate, died in a plane crash months before the election. Voters still chose Carnahan.
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    • Re: What the Fark???

      Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
      Okay, I've heard stories about dead people voting. But a dead person getting elected to public office???
      It seems to happen a couple times a decade, usually for a very low level office. Guy croaks five days before the election, people vote the party anyway and... there ya go.

      Must feel great to be the candidate who loses, though...
      Last edited by Kepler; 11-07-2014, 11:11 AM.
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        From what I've seen around here, a dead person in office is often a much better choice than many of the people that end up in office.
        Believe it. Earn it. Raise it.

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          Originally posted by Siouxfaninseattle View Post
          From what I've seen around here, a dead person in office is often a much better choice than many of the people that end up in office.
          Harder to bribe, anyway.
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          • Re: What the Fark???

            Given that folks often robotically vote for the familiar name and that for many positions elected office is a lifetime gig, it's surprising it doesn't happen more often.

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              Originally posted by CLS View Post
              Given that folks often robotically vote for the familiar name and that for many positions elected office is a lifetime gig, it's surprising it doesn't happen more often.
              Ike vs. JFK in 2016? Or would it have to be Reagan?
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                Originally posted by joecct View Post
                Ike vs. JFK in 2016? Or would it have to be Reagan?
                Think bigger.
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                • Re: What the Fark???

                  Originally posted by joecct View Post
                  Ike vs. JFK in 2016? Or would it have to be Reagan?
                  If we want to have an election among the best from each major party, wouldn't it be George Washington (Federalist) vs James K Polk (Democrat) vs Jefferson (Democratic Republican) vs Eisenhower (Republican)? I omit the Whigs because all 4 were pretty non-descript and two of them died before completing their first term while the successor only finished out said term (WH Harrison/Tyler, Taylor/Fillmore).

                  Hmm... if we expand the field to 8 then we can have a playoff bracket.

                  Do we have a play-in for each party first? Eisenhower or Reagan or Teddy Roosevelt or Lincoln for Republicans? Polk or FDR or Clinton for Democrats?


                  PS technically Washington was not affiliated with any party, but I lump him in with Federalists because otherwise I am "stuck" with John Adams.



                  PPS even though Chester Arthur (Republican) only became President after Garfield's assassination, I have a soft spot for him. He was "supposed to" reward all the party loyalists with cushy patronage jobs, and instead he signed the Civil Service Act. He was one person who grew in stature thanks to the responsibilities of the office, IMHO. of course no good deed goes unpunished. He is one of the few incumbents who couldn't even get his party to nominate him as candidate for re-election, thanks to his stand on principle.
                  Last edited by FreshFish; 11-07-2014, 01:12 PM.
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                  "Beer is a sign that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -- Benjamin Franklin

                  "Being Irish, he had an abiding sense of tragedy, which sustained him through temporary periods of joy." -- W. B. Yeats

                  "People generally are most impatient with those flaws in others about which they are most ashamed of in themselves." - folk wisdom

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                  • Re: What the Fark???

                    Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
                    If we want to have an election among the best from each major party, wouldn't it be George Washington (Federalist) vs James K Polk (Democrat) vs Jefferson (Democratic Republican) vs Eisenhower (Republican)? I omit the Whigs because all 4 were pretty non-descript and two of them died before completing their first term while the successor only finished out said term (WH Harrison/Tyler, Taylor/Fillmore).

                    Hmm... if we expand the field to 8 then we can have a playoff bracket.

                    Do we have a play-in for each party first? Eisenhower or Reagan or Teddy Roosevelt or Lincoln for Republicans? Polk or FDR or Clinton for Democrats?


                    PS technically Washington was not affiliated with any party, but I lump him in with Federalists because otherwise I am "stuck" with John Adams.



                    PPS even though Chester Arthur (Republican) only became President after Garfield's assassination, I have a soft spot for him. He was "supposed to" reward all the party loyalists with cushy patronage jobs, and instead he signed the Civil Service Act. He was one person who grew in stature thanks to the responsibilities of the office, IMHO. of course no good deed goes unpunished. He is one of the few incumbents who couldn't even get his party to nominate him as candidate for re-election, thanks to his stand on principle.
                    I think you need one for the 1800's and the 1900's.

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                    • Re: What the Fark???

                      Originally posted by joecct View Post
                      I think you need one for the 1800's and the 1900's.

                      4 brackets of 4.
                      Beards and no beards.

                      I actually think a contest for best nominees that never won would be more fun. Where have you gone, Robert Lafollette, a nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
                      Last edited by Kepler; 11-07-2014, 03:09 PM.
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                      • Re: What the Fark???

                        In Creative Writing, they teach that sometimes little details are the key to a scene's impact.

                        See if you can find that here.
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