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  • winger
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    Oh glad I wandered into USCHO forums then, I will have to see if it is still running around here.

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  • St. Clown
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    Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
    I saw something in our paper that referred to Atlas Shrugged: Part II as an upcoming release. I don't know why I find this funny, but my reaction on reading that was, "when did they release Part I." I actually go to a lot of movies and seriously had no idea they had already released Part I.
    It was a limited release. Very limited, in fact. I think it only came to one theater in the Minneapolis/St. Paul market and then the next closest theater was around Chicago.

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  • SJHovey
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    Originally posted by Wol4ine View Post
    Atlas Shrugged: Part II hits the theaters next week. Different actors than Part I, so that sucks. BUt looking forward to going none the less. Anyone else?
    I saw something in our paper that referred to Atlas Shrugged: Part II as an upcoming release. I don't know why I find this funny, but my reaction on reading that was, "when did they release Part I." I actually go to a lot of movies and seriously had no idea they had already released Part I.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by ExileOnDaytonStreet View Post
    I've said it before, and I'll say it again: It's ironic that in a free market, the massive failure of the first film did nothing to prevent the production of Atlas Shrugged 2: Shrug Harder.
    You're assuming that the "market" in this case is bounded by the film economy: production and distribution costs vs sales. It's not. The market in this case is tax policy. The movie's promoters are putting a handful of millions into the film in order to continue avoiding billions in taxation. In that regard, the films could each lose a hundred million dollars and be highly successful.

    For that matter, the fact that they have any revenue at all makes them brilliant. They are getting people to pay to watch them run a commercial, and getting people like Wol4ine to (presumably) freely donate their time to publicize it.

    That, my friend, is genius.
    Last edited by Kepler; 10-05-2012, 01:01 PM.

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  • St. Clown
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    Originally posted by ExileOnDaytonStreet View Post
    Sure. That's what's going to suck about it.

    I've said it before, and I'll say it again: It's ironic that in a free market, the massive failure of the first film did nothing to prevent the production of Atlas Shrugged 2: Shrug Harder.
    The budget for these films weren't that big, only $6.5 million. It really didn't take much for the show to make money (box office of about $4.5 million, in limited release, and who knows how much on DVD/BD sales and rental). For the producers, I heard them in a radio interview saying that the first movie was more a labor of love/ideology than getting huge ROI. They likely made some money, enough for them to bankroll Part II, anyway.

    Those figures are from IMDB.

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  • ExileOnDaytonStreet
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    Originally posted by Wol4ine View Post
    Atlas Shrugged: Part II hits the theaters next week. Different actors than Part I, so that sucks. BUt looking forward to going none the less. Anyone else?
    Sure. That's what's going to suck about it.

    I've said it before, and I'll say it again: It's ironic that in a free market, the massive failure of the first film did nothing to prevent the production of Atlas Shrugged 2: Shrug Harder.

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  • Wol4ine
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    Atlas Shrugged: Part II hits the theaters next week. Different actors than Part I, so that sucks. BUt looking forward to going none the less. Anyone else?

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  • Wol4ine
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    I'm going to see the new documentary in Lansing tonight:
    "Ayn Rand & the Prophecy of Atlas Shrugged"

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  • FreshFish
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    Originally posted by Red Cloud View Post
    Kepler thinks V for Vendetta was a documentary.
    Phew, is that all.....I thought you were going to tell me he thought it was an autobiography!

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  • Red Cloud
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    Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
    If I understand correctly, you and Kepler are complementary: he tells people what to do, and you tell people what not to do!
    Kepler thinks V for Vendetta was a documentary.

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  • FreshFish
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    If I understand correctly, you and Kepler are complementary: he tells people what to do, and you tell people what not to do!

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  • FreshFish
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    Review of the movie as a movie rather than... well, you know.

    Hmm....thanks for posting the review. I didn't need to read far. What I found interesting is that fans of V for Vendetta the book were so harsh on the movie. I found the movie V for Vendetta as a fascinating movie that operated on several different levels. (I have not read the book).

    Given the title and the central scene of the movie (in which V walks through fire), the movie works quite well as a re-telling of Frankenstein: the freak of nature who cannot ever have a normal human life sets out to revenge himself on his creators and falls in love with someone he cannot have.

    It also works quite well as a police procedural / political suspense thriller: will our intrepid investigators find the truth? will they be deterred? will they be killed by the powers-that-be?

    Then they threw in all that ancillary political commentary as a way of "messing with people" as the expression goes. He wanted revenge, and so he was a terrorist...yet the people upon whom he wanted to wreak vengeance were horrible evil tyrants, and so to the people he rescued, he was a freedom fighter too. "messing with people" in the sense that there was no "either / or" on this question, it was "both".

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  • Red Cloud
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    Kepler just explained his existence, if I understand correctly.

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  • Kepler
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    In memoria.

    "There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other involves orcs."

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  • Tundra
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    Originally posted by Wol4ine View Post

    thus, we have this,No, it isn't a Death Panel. Just 3 appointed people that will determine how much profit an industry can make.

    In Atlas Shrugged, legislators pass a 'Special Tax' on the State of Colorado. Forget how that could never happen (then again, Arkansas did get a special exemption,...hmmm). Anyway, Colorado is the only place producing oil in the book, and the Feds want the profit that Wyatt Oil is making to finance the rest of their ill-fated legislation.

    As a side note. Didn't Carter try this which led to gas rationing?? I'm thinking he did!!!
    I read Atlas Shrugged (well mostly... had to skip all the repetition). I didn't understand how she could write that stuff if she grew up in the USA in the 40-60's. There is a short biography of her in the back of the book and it makes sense that she hated anything to do with socialism/communism.

    Yeah I don't understand why democrats keep using "wind fall" or "claw backs" and such non-sense words to describe fair tax system. And it shouldn't be "one time" "wind fall" "claw back" but a change in the tax code where a company gets a progressive tax rate depending on oil prices (This is our oil being dug from the ground, not some innovation created by creative genius). And how company gets to write off executive compensation.

    And we have panels setting prices in a non-competitive markets like utility (electric, water etc...).

    I think we actually had oil/gasoline shortage in Carter years.

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