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  • #526
    Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    It still takes a while to spin up and deploy unless you're sitting right next to a railroad junction and are going to near where the railroads are going.

    Why not do what we do @ Diego Garcia and pre position a pot load of equipment somewhere (lease the space) and fly the troops in to man the stuff when needed? As much as a I like Pax Americana, it cannot be sustained in the current economy.
    Israel is our permanent leased beachhead in oil country. Unfortunately, it's probably more costly in both money and world opinion than maintaining a huge permanent base in Iraq would have been.
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    • #527
      Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

      Originally posted by bronconick View Post
      Which is why we had to do all the heavy lifting and logistics in Libya in their front yard. Our withdrawal will require them to be able to at least project power in the Mediterranean, something they appear to be incapable of doing right now.
      If your point is...lets cut back and they can pick up the slack if they want: I'm all for it. But I don't expect they will and just as with the US, I have no problem the EU making decisions that are in their own best interest.
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      • #528
        Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

        This is hopeful, but I wonder about a couple things.

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        (1) Are these age splits usually the case?

        (2) Is this just a short term reaction to the disasters of the wars?

        These are the kind of poll questions which, the moment they are first asked, I wish we had 50 years of trending on.
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        • #529
          Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

          That survey is the crux of both foriegn relations and national security questions. The trend is good...but I bet it has always been 'good' (probably since the introduction of the league of nations).

          Perhaps, the more fundamental problem is that the 'establishment' is for the costly status quo.
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          • #530
            Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
            This is hopeful, but I wonder about a couple things.

            (1) Are these age splits usually the case?

            (2) Is this just a short term reaction to the disasters of the wars?

            These are the kind of poll questions which, the moment they are first asked, I wish we had 50 years of trending on.
            There is always the Curtis Lemay school of foreign relations:

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            • #531
              Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

              I find the low quantity of "both" answers to the second question to be a little surprising. Diplomacy will only go so far when the guy on the other side of the table doesn't respect your ability to stand up to him.
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              • #532
                Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                These are the kind of poll questions which, the moment they are first asked, I wish we had 50 years of trending on.
                Agreed. Those are pretty generically worded, which makes me wonder if the result is merely standard relative to age demographic or actually indicative of larger generational differences that won't change as each generation ages.
                I wish I am able to live long enough to do all the things I was attributed to.

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                • #533
                  Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

                  Originally posted by Craig P. View Post
                  I find the low quantity of "both" answers to the second question to be a little surprising. Diplomacy will only go so far when the guy on the other side of the table doesn't respect your ability to stand up to him.
                  I seem to remember some guy saying something about walking with a big stick or something...
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                  • #534
                    Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

                    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                    I seem to remember some guy saying something about walking with a big stick or something...
                    Military power is just like the Laffer curve -- you have to find the sweet spot. If you have too little you're screwed by others. If you have too much you screw yourself because the whole world considers you a threat and you are a threat because to the man with air superiority the solution to every problem is bombing.

                    You would think that people who have an ideology that overgrown government becomes tyrannical by its very nature would be able to wrap its head around that, but the home schooled are apparently not too strong on logical consistency.
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                    • #535
                      Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

                      In other news, the entire basis of personal rights, privacy, property -- the entire Western Experiment -- is on the line. Without this, there is nothing. Have we really reached the point where people (left, right, center, everybody) are so jaded, ignorant or afraid that they just don't care anymore?
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                      • #536
                        Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        In other news, the entire basis of personal rights, privacy, property -- the entire Western Experiment -- is on the line. Without this, there is nothing. Have we really reached the point where people (left, right, center, everybody) are so jaded, ignorant or afraid that they just don't care anymore?
                        Not to worry. I was recently reliably informed in a discussion regarding taxation that individuals actually don't have the right to private property since it's not in the Constitudtion, so we're all square on that aspect, anyway.
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                        • #537
                          Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

                          More on our descent into a police state, in case your grandchildren ask you where it all finally went to hell.
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                          • #538
                            Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

                            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            More on our descent into a police state, in case your grandchildren ask you where it all finally went to hell.
                            Won't last a 9th Circuit minute in court.

                            And, I know this will surprise you, I think the Supreme Court upholds the 9th Circuit.
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                            • #539
                              Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

                              Good to see Russia resisting the Putin stranglehold.
                              Go Gophers!

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                              • #540
                                Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

                                Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                                Good to see Russia resisting the Putin stranglehold.
                                For now. The Tsar is not dead, just renamed.
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