Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

[geezer]

Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

wait, was Terminator based on a true story? What happens when the drones get hacked?

[Priceless]

Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

That's nothing. Play Scrabble against computers and you learn *really* bizarre ones. I'm still waiting to be able to use jiao in conversation. I guess it would help if I knew what it meant...

Definition of JIAO
: a monetary unit of the People's Republic of China equal to 1⁄10 yuan

[dxmnkd316]

Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

wait, was Terminator based on a true story? What happens when the drones get hacked?

JMFC... This is not good...g

[geezer]

Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

"Irony" experts: does this qualify?

Al-Qaeda has also criticized the Obama administration for killing U.S. citizens, saying doing so “contradicts” American law.

[Kepler]

Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

Now veterans hate America! Poor Dubya... misunderestimated till the end.

[XYZ]

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Now veterans hate America! Poor Dubya... misunderestimated till the end.

Wouldn't surprise me if the support has been on steady decline since whatever point diminishing returns started to become overly apparent.

If 34% say it was worth it and 33% say it was not...what's up with the other 33%? Is there an option here I'm missing? "Sorta worth it?"

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

Now veterans hate America! Poor Dubya... misunderestimated till the end.

We will be greeted as Liberators.

[Kepler]

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Can we leave yet?

[Old Pio]

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Can we leave yet?

These AQ/Taliban monsters sound stressed out. Maybe they could use some psycho-therapy. "Dr." Hasan's available.

[XYZ]

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/12/us...y.html?_r=1&hp

[joecct]

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/12/us...y.html?_r=1&hp

Eric Holder announced it. It's gotta be true!

[Kepler]

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/12/us...y.html?_r=1&hp

Money shot:

According the complaint, Mr. Arbabsiar attempted to reassure the two federal informants that they would be paid if they carried out the assassination: “This is politics,” he told them, saying that the money was not coming from an individual but from a government. “It’s not like, eh, personal . . . this is politics.”

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[Kepler]

Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

Another one bites the dust.

History moves. Nice to be on the right side of it again.

[Rover]

Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

Another one bites the dust.

History moves. Nice to be on the right side of it again.

Proving once again the wisdom of having people with some skin in the game be the ones to take on the combat role instead of US troops (see Iraq). This whole Libya transformation took what, like 6 months? We're still in Iraq 8 years later.

[Kepler]

Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

Proving once again the wisdom of having people with some skin in the game be the ones to take on the combat role instead of US troops (see Iraq). This whole Libya transformation took what, like 6 months? We're still in Iraq 8 years later.

Tunisia, Egypt and Libya have fallen without an American casualty, and the administration timed its change of support perfectly to not taint the rebels as neocolonialist tools.

OTOH, Iraq is destroyed as a counterweight to Iran and Afghanistan never stopped being half-controlled by the Taliban, plus Pakistan is even further in the Islamists' pocket. Oh, and 5k American troops and about 100,000 Muslim civilians are dead.

But other than that Neoconservatism was a brilliant geopolitical theory.

Neo-conservatism has long struggled for the influence it now commands. It seeks to control mortal threats (real or imagined) before destruction is unleashed. The revolution in military affairs offered by Bush, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz was designed by Wohlstetter and friends at the Rand Institute in the 1970s; the neo-cons waited in the wings ever since. The two Gulf wars, Venezuela and Afghanistan have been the test phases of a 'new' strategic disposition. The UN, Nato, strategic alliances and military assets are being reshuffled to advance US power.

Why now? Globalisation, emerging rivals, economic weakness and multiculturalism menace. Alongside goods, services and wealth flow people, cultures and ideologies. This process has stretched inequalities - fuelling outrage, resistance and chaos. It also furnishes great fortunes and business opportunities. Neo-con anger feeds on the disorder, opposition, risk and danger that globalisation fosters. The flows of trade and wealth are embraced as civilising and positive. The proliferation of cultures and forms of resistance is hated and feared. Multilateral policy-making, perpetual compromise and tolerance of disorder and dysfunction are perceived to be lurking everywhere.

The neo-cons recommend impassioned reaction. They offer an alternative vision of globalisation in which the US takes control of a chaotic world. Opponents, rival ideas and rising powers are brought to heel.

The collapse of the USSR and the less developed state of EU and Chinese power offer a unique and fleeting opportunity - to be seized by force if necessary. The US can and must act to forestall the emergence of rival powers. Otherwise a flood of alien ideas, cultures and agendas will subvert US liberty, 'civilisation' and stability. Strength of purpose, economic primacy and a monopoly on military prowess can be used to harvest the good while restricting or destroying evil.

Modern America is open to this approach. Primed by a conservative corporate media and more than 20 years of rightward drift, Americans are profoundly frightened. They are scared of economic forces exporting good jobs, bringing waves of immigrants, lowering wages and raising global instability. The US middle class is under crushing pressure. Wages are not keeping up with spending. Debts are rising and profound insecurity besets personal, professional and financial life. The promises of new technologies and stock market wealth were false. The economy is weak and the 2000 presidential election called basic understandings of democracy into question. Rounds of corporate scandal tarnish captains of industry. The 11 September attacks and waves of arrests, rumours and threats terrify. Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, terror alerts and climbing unemployment keep fear levels high. Proliferating police power and receding civil liberty worry many.

Neo-cons offer a world remade. Media pundits and politicians share and feed off fear, offering neo-con foreign policy as the solution. But rival voices, most on the right, compete fiercely with the neo-cons; the latter do not sit alone at the tables of power. So, conservative Christian and business interests must be accommodated, thus convoluting and complicating policy.

That was the world that was. Maybe there actually is a Supreme Being, since we escaped it. How anybody would want to risk bringing those animals back anywhere near power is frankly impossible to believe.