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  • ScoobyDoo
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    Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    If we ever decide to stop taxing the US middle class and sacrificing the children of the world's lower class in order to fatten the wallets of the world's upper class, then, yeah, we can leave. How likely is that post-Citizens United?
    50/50

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  • Kepler
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    Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    At what point do we take our ball and go home?
    Probably never.

    We run the world for a small cadre's profit. Our bases and embassies are forward deployment in support of our business interests. The only way to disengage the former is to relinquish the latter.

    If we ever decide to stop taxing the US middle class and sacrificing the children of the world's lower class in order to fatten the wallets of the world's upper class, then, yeah, we can leave. How likely is that post-Citizens United?

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  • dxmnkd316
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    At what point do we take our ball and go home?

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  • Kepler
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    Morsi condemns Cairo attack.

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  • Rover
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    Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

    Originally posted by Patman View Post
    Is it because if it were the Russians or the Chinese they'd make sure that retribution was given in full?

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    The embassy didn't need to say anything on their twitter feed. We do not owe them a response for their disgusting actions. Further it is insulting that we got caught with our pants down as the Arab Spring slowly turns into the fundamentalist nightmare. Is this still supposed to be a success? Especially Libya?

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    Kepler, stop trying to equivocate Christian fundamentalists with Islamic fundamentalist. You know the comparison is wrong to start with. Your faith that both lead to the same ends or are separate sides of the same coin is stunningly ignorant.

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    The filmmakers of this obscure film bear no blame unless we want to admit that a group of Muslims cannot control themselves or to act in a rational manner vis a vis this type of stimulus. Are you willing to go there? If so, will you blame MLK and others for the reaction of racist whites to the civil rights movement? Where do you separate cause, effect, and complicitness? This whole this is also a clear example of the Streisand-effect, writ large. No group should be given veto power over speech and if the Muslim Beotherhood can't handle that, if Al-Qaeda can't handle that, and if other Americans can't handle that then they can all go stuff it.

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    As for those quibbling about Romney's remarks... The world is full of people who always fear What the world may think... And a lot of them have a financial stake in these partnerships. But ask yourself... How did we get here? Ask yourself... "will mealey mouth words from a person who avoids his own intelligence briefings and actually mean anything"? I don't know about you, but to me that requires a lot of faith.

    The Egyptians need to be told one thing... Grow up. The Lybians? It's a lost cause. The "Arab Spring" look at what it has wrought.
    100% pure knuckledragger logic right here. Not an ounce of sense anywhere to be found.

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  • FreshFish
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    Originally posted by bronconick View Post
    Probably not, but that won't stop you from being a partisan ***hole, now will it?
    well, it restrains me more than it restrains you, apparently. at least I have good manners.

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  • Kepler
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    Partial evacuation of consulate in Berlin.

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  • joecct
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    Embassy in Yemen attacked. Similar to Cairo. No deaths reported.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    Oh folks! Stand up and SING!!

    Politics aside, that is one kickass march.

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  • bronconick
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    Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    Says another partisan ***hole...
    Did you take your meds tonight, or do you have some more crazy nonsense to spew?

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  • FlagDUDE08
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    Originally posted by bronconick View Post
    Probably not, but that won't stop you from being a partisan ***hole, now will it?
    Says another partisan ***hole...

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  • mookie1995
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    Originally posted by Rover View Post
    So....why is crime worse in FL and TX than in MA?
    Majority of the peeps I know here own guns. Just have to go ask you local chief of police buddy to vouch for you

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  • Bob Gray
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    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    Uh, I think you missed the point.

    He said that countries don't mess with you under the threat of retaliation. AFAIK Israel has no problem defending itself yet Iran has been poking a stick at them for years.
    Didn't miss a thing. That's why I made my first comment. If someone or some nation acts irrationally, then the threat of retaliation isn't meaningful like it is to someone more rational. I think you missed where my comments were going.

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  • Patman
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    Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
    It is interesting to note that nobody is storming the Russian or Chinese embassies, despite their backing of Assad and his brutal repression that has killed many thousands. Can't imagine why.
    Is it because if it were the Russians or the Chinese they'd make sure that retribution was given in full?

    ----

    The embassy didn't need to say anything on their twitter feed. We do not owe them a response for their disgusting actions. Further it is insulting that we got caught with our pants down as the Arab Spring slowly turns into the fundamentalist nightmare. Is this still supposed to be a success? Especially Libya?

    ----

    Kepler, stop trying to equivocate Christian fundamentalists with Islamic fundamentalist. You know the comparison is wrong to start with. Your faith that both lead to the same ends or are separate sides of the same coin is stunningly ignorant.

    ----

    The filmmakers of this obscure film bear no blame unless we want to admit that a group of Muslims cannot control themselves or to act in a rational manner vis a vis this type of stimulus. Are you willing to go there? If so, will you blame MLK and others for the reaction of racist whites to the civil rights movement? Where do you separate cause, effect, and complicitness? This whole this is also a clear example of the Streisand-effect, writ large. No group should be given veto power over speech and if the Muslim Beotherhood can't handle that, if Al-Qaeda can't handle that, and if other Americans can't handle that then they can all go stuff it.

    ----

    As for those quibbling about Romney's remarks... The world is full of people who always fear What the world may think... And a lot of them have a financial stake in these partnerships. But ask yourself... How did we get here? Ask yourself... "will mealey mouth words from a person who avoids his own intelligence briefings and actually mean anything"? I don't know about you, but to me that requires a lot of faith.

    The Egyptians need to be told one thing... Grow up. The Lybians? It's a lost cause. The "Arab Spring" look at what it has wrought.

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  • ExileOnDaytonStreet
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    A little "Sorry, America" rally in Benghazi. FWIW (which isn't much, but it's still nice for what it is)

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